behind the scenes

The Neverending Story (book)

Oh man sorry I betrayed you.

Yes, this time we talk about one of Kiyan’s favourite books. The book that is far superior to the second and third movies, and superior to most of the first movie too. Wow. It’s The NeverEnding Story written by Michael Ende.


Show-notes:


5:18 Behold. The greatest arm movement ever animated.
15:09 America! Fu- err… uh… *ahem*… heck yeah!
21:03 I’m just gonna leave this here. Go ahead. Click on it.

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The NeverEnding Story

The crossover event of the year!

You might notice a friendly cricket during this recording. We’ve named him Garage Cricket. Gary for short. Well actually by we I mean me, and by named him I mean I made up that name right now. Look the topic at hand is The NeverEnding Story, and spoiler it’s not as good as when you watched it as a kid so maybe just don’t watch it again. Well the 2nd and 3rd for sure, not sure about the first. Rose tinted goggles and all that. The NeverEnding Story was released in 1984, 1990, and 1994.

Show-notes:


4:07 And here you can read about him rightfully regretting that decision.
9:33 This guy. Thanks for Gmork man. He looked pretty cool.
10:48 Steven Spielberg has AURYN now… also, you won’t want to miss these 13 other amazing facts doctors don’t want you to know about The Neverending Story.
11:19 My current jam.
13:50 More about the 25 people needed to make Falkor work and the other puppets in the film.
14:31 It’s in a link at the bottom.
18:27 You won’t believe the top 9 reasons why adults shouldn’t watch Neverending Story!
19:50 And if you want to know what the actors are up to now 30-something years later, you can check this out. But maybe skip over Bastian’s gnarly dreads.
29:30 Watch. Watch and be amazed.
31:31 It’s Pyornkrachzark. I wonder how much time they could’ve tacked onto the movie by saying that name instead of Rock Biter. Cause it would’ve added up.

Here are a couple other sites we got info from. They’re definitely not super old and of dubious reliability or anything.
http://www.fast-rewind.com/neverending.htm
http://mtrweb.maschinenbau.tu-ilmenau.de:8080/prod/e_prdframe.htm
The second one is where you can find all that production artwork we mentioned. Just click “storyboard”on the sidebar there.

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The Magnificent Seven (1960)

Facts aren’t supposed to be false…

Yessir here we are, we’ve gathered up 5 of our best friends and then none of them showed up to talk about the Magnificent Seven so we kind of had to improvise and do it ourselves. The Magnificent Seven was released in 1960.


Show-notes:

0:32 Hmmm…
5:45 It’s a sickle.
6:13 Obelix best character.
16:31 And now of course I can’t find it. Well at least I couldn’t find it in 30 seconds on Google, and I’m not willing to try any more than that.
25:16 Is Obama’s statement a joke? the world may never know.
37:55 What? What channel? Where? Why? How come nobody ever told me about this? Where am I? What’s my name? What’s going on?
40:29 There’s Return of the Seven, with only Yul Brynner returning, Guns of the Magnificent Seven, with no returning cast members, and The Magnificent Seven Ride, with Lee Van Cleef as Chris.


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The Dollars Trilogy

Kiyan and Dylan should record this podcast in different languages.

Remember when I said that Year 2 of Triple Play was starting with high octane high stakes movies? Well that died immediately because this week we have The Dollars Trilogy, directed by Sergio Leone. Not necessarily not high octane, but we did come close to falling asleep while watching because of good decisions.


Show-notes:


4:59 Including me. I’ve been called the greatest director of all time. Not sure what the guy who called me that was talking about cause I’m not a director.
5:30 So how did Leone and the spaghetti western get their start? Beats me, but I heard these sites have pretty decent write-ups.
8:20 More about the movie’s original title and release.
8:33 Meh.
11:29 He gets sent this pleasant letter and starts fanboying out. I wonder what Kurosawa did with all the money he made off of the movie. Maybe he bought a thousand chihuahuas.
20:22 You can read more about Morricone here. You can also watch this thing or something.
22:13 I get the strange impression that he doesn’t like questions about Back to the Future.
39:02 Specifically here.
40:21 More about that and more on the movie in general here.
47:28 Carla Leone.
52:46 Production code.

Here’s some other stuff we referenced in this. Some of them are documentaries I watched on Youtube that were broken up into multiple parts, so I’ll just link to the first part and you can find the rest easily.
Filming A Fistful of Dollars
Leone’s West
Short Leone interview
The Leone Style
Once Upon A Time: Sergio Leone
Ennio Morricone documentary
Sergio Leone – The Way I See Things
The Man With No Name


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The Bourne Identity (1988)

And that’s when everyone realized we’re sponsored by LG.

This month Kiyan and Dylan make a snap decision between precisely 2 expanded universe options for the Bourne trilogy: A book, or the TV movie. Naturally they chose the TV movie because it was less time consuming. The Bourne Identity TV movie was written by Carol Sobieski and aired in 1988.


Show-notes:


1:38 Keyser Söze. They named him that just because the ö looks like a surprised face. Trust me.
4:22 The extended cut of the movie, available only on laserdisc, features Washburn more heavily and goes into detail about his brother Freezerburn.
5:33 Wombosi.
24:22 Apparently a syndrome only includes symptoms that might be related to a disease while a disease is an actual medical condition. Also apparently nobody cares and just uses disease and symptom interchangeably. Good enough for me.
27:25 Check out my new hit single, “What Does The Murloc Say?”
28:44 It was Evolution.
30:50 Nope, it came out on DVD and even blu ray.
32:16 According to the supposedly-official robert-ludlum.com, he’s named Jason Bourne because he’s “born” again after losing his memory. Other sources say he’s named after real-world amnesiac Ansel Bourne.

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The Bourne Identity, The Bourne Supremacy, The Bourne Ultimatum

I went to a bar once, they told me not to forget the white Russians.

This month Kiyan and Dylan take a high octane, high stakes, high speed approach to year 2 of Triple Play. By which we mean, they watched the Bourne trilogy (Bourne Identity, Bourne Supremacy, and Bourne Ultimatum) and then discovered that the behinds the scenes were… decidedly less thrilling than the films themselves. And yet they still try to make it entertaining, so here it is!


Show-notes:


2:36 Here’s a list of his books. Yeah, they all follow pretty much the same naming scheme.
3:29 This one. Maybe we’ll watch this for the .5 episode. Who knows?
4:05 To Liman, enjoying the book a second time through meant that it was about the characters and not the plot. Deep.
7:28 And Vegas.
8:10 Which is near 2:50 here.
11:45 Actually it was the left nipple.
16:22 You can find that in this making of video.
18:54 Among other things.
26:56 Read more about that story here.

And read more about the other stuff we said here, here, and here.


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Pryde of the X-Men

To be honest, however, socks with crocs are even higher on the style scale.

This month Kiyan and Dylan try to find something in the X-Men universe that they can get done in a week, because procrastination is the way of the future! So they turned to Pryde of the X-Men, a pilot for an ultimately unmade animated series. It was written by Larry Parr and was aired on September 16, 1989.


Show-notes:


1:13 Robocop: The Animated Series ran between October and December 1988. It was animated by South Korean studio AKOM, the same company that did the 1992 X-Men series.
1:46 I can’t explain it. Just watch the ad yourself.
6:30 Toei animated the first two seasons of the original Transformers show. Later episodes were animated by AKOM.
15:45 Here’s the link. Again. I will definitely might actually remember the difference this time around.
24:09 Kath Soucie.

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X-Men, X2, X-Men: The Last Stand

We’ve gone too deep into music genres!

This month Kiyan and Dylan experience more superhero movies. Just like how there’s a superhero bubble in the real movie world, we’ve created one in Triple Play. How long do you think it will be until it bursts? Soon. Very soon. Does that count as a spoiler? Anyway, it’s X-Men, X2, and X3: The Last Stand. Check out some show-notes below where we’ve listed our sources and made any corrections that we needed to.


Show-notes:

 
4:10 The original and still-running X-Men comic series saw a boost in popularity in the mid 70s. This fansite seems to be a nice resource for those looking to get into the comics (good luck, you’ll need it), and even features this 7-page introductory article.
5:45 Earlier this year, Bryan Singer discussed the state of superhero movies pre-X-Men and how he helped revitalize the genre.
6:06 Chris Claremont’s original vision for the X-Men movie never panned out, but you can read a bit about it here.
8:20 This article from 2000 touches on some challenges Singer faced on the set.
9:57 Joss Whedon had a few choice words about how his edits to the first film’s script were scrapped.
11:30 Writer Tom DeSanto discusses the decision to give the characters darker and “more realistic” costumes.
14:34 Russel Crowe was first pick for Wolverine, but he recommended Jackman instead.
14:40 Articles from before the first movie’s release, like this one, even attested that Scott was definitely a part of the project. Whoops!
17:06 We’re sure you know what Enchanted is.
21:45 You can read more about how special effect artist “Jimmy Claws” created Wolverine’s claws here.
25:25 It was actually John Powell who composed for Ice Age 2 and X3.
27:29 X2’s writers discuss how the writing process was more intimately linked to the rest of the creation of the film than it normally is.
31:27 Here’s that article from American Cinematographer if anyone’s interested.
32:41 And if anyone’s really interested, here’s a 14 page document from Kodak detailing various film types.
37:43 Here’s some of what Kinberg has to say about working with Penn on X3’s script and which characters were going to be a part of the movie.
41:50 The scene in all of its ridiculous glory. And here’s a little article that details some of the secrecy behind the filming of the scene.
51:06 The brief scene with Cyclops teaching.


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Italian Spiderman

It’s like a 5 year old drew the spiderman logo.

This month Kiyan and Dylan cover something that could barely even be considered “expanded universe” for Spiderman. It’s Italian Spiderman! Originally released on YouTube, the first episode was aired on the 22nd of May in 2008. Also, do you want to know what color that serum was? Open up the show-notes and take a look.


Show-notes


00:10 Italian is the language we were attempting to speak here. Translations from Google Translate for improved authenticity of sketchiness.
01:20 Here’s the original trailer. Too bad the Green Goblin never made it into the final product.
02:15 3 Dev Adam is an unofficial 1970s Turkish Spider-Man movie. It follows Captain America, real-life Mexican luchador El Santo, and Captain America’s girlfriend Julia in their attempts to put an end the evil Spider-Man’s counterfeiting operation. Yes, really. Clip (Warning: guy’s face gets eaten by guinea pigs. Watch at your own risk)
05:13 Baccarat is a card game. Here’s how to play it in 7 steps.
09:14 Here’s a helpful table from NASA that explains asteroids, comets, meteoroids, meteors, and meteorites.
10:12 The face.
21:53 Erik Estrada.
22:07 CHiPs helmet on Erik Estrada.
25:30 Monty Python and the Holy Grail’s killer bunny. I bet this thing would make a good guard bunny if you could get close to it (and tame it).
26:41 Red or blue? You decide!
31:07 Indian Superman might be a reference to this clip from the 1988 film Dariya Dil, in which two of the characters dress as Superman and Spider-Man.


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Spider-Man

Of course, that doesn’t mean we aren’t experts.

Buckle your seat belts, because Kiyan and Dylan are about to swing their way through New York as they explore Spider-Man! Specifically, the 2000’s era Sam Raimi trilogy. The consensus was that it was rather enjoyable. If you thought that this episode was enjoyable, check below for some show notes and links to where they got their information, and please tell your friends about the show!

Stan Lee talks about his conception of Spider-Man in the on disc featurette about the making of Spider-Man. The feature covers a few other aspects of the film that we talked about, but it’s predominantly an excuse for the actors, directors, and producers to sit down and be interviewed. It’s been lovingly posted on YouTube. The behind the scenes for the second film can also be found on YouTube in multiple parts: GeneralStunts, Costume Design, Story and Character, and Practical Effects. There used to be an additional part of Visual Design, but it has since sadly been blocked on copyright grounds.

In early 2002, when the first Spider-Man was but a month away from release, Bloomberg Business put together a comprehensive run down of the long legal disputes that surround Spider-Man’s film rights. You can read that on their website.

Besides the obvious mispronunciation of McClory, it should be noted that the Thunderball legal dispute has a long and varied history, with every side throwing something new into the mix. The supposed “Thunderball for Spider-Man” deal is only a rumor, but wikipedia provides a good summary of that entire legal dispute.

The anecdote about Tobey’s back and that scene in Spider-Man 2 comes from Sam Raimi himself, in an interview that he gave for the BBC. There’s some other interesting notes about the behind the scenes, so be sure to check that out.

Speaking of Spider-Man 2, Doctor Octopus was one of the most complicated visual effects put to film at the time. A feature on the Spider-Man 2 DVD goes into far more detail than we did, and that too has been lovingly hosted on YouTube.

We didn’t touch on this in the episode, but a major special effects scene in the third film was the crane scene. Shortly after the third film released, a website called Animation World Network contacted CafeFX and wrote an article about the work that went into creating that very scene. It’s quite an interesting read for anyone who is interested in computer effects.

An additional part of the Spider Man 2 Behind the Scenes talks predominantly about Spyder-Cam, so be sure to check that out if it sounded like your jam.

A brief note on costuming and some interesting to read pre-release speculation can be found on IGN.

We clearly thought that the original vision for Spider-Man 2 and Doc Ock was an awful, terrible idea. But not everyone agrees, of course. io9 originally reported on the vision when the original script was posted online, but that script is no longer available at the link they provide. But you can read their long synopsis of that script here.

Thomas Haden Church talked about his role as Sandman and signing on for the movie without a script in an interview with Comic Book Resources. It still exists on their website.

Christopher Young went into excessive detail about his scoring for Spider-Man 3. It should actually be noted that he’s quite an accomplished composer on his own merits, and he talks about this in the interview. Read it here.

After the first two films were released, but before the third was, IGN posted a collection of articles detailing some observations and theories on the films. The first article in these collection detailed Spider-Man 1 & 2, and includes large sections dedicated to detailing the differences between the film and comic versions of the characters. Be sure to check that out if that interests you.

So that’s our 5th trilogy down. Spider-Man. Did you know that film cost extra? Neither did J. Jonah Jameson.

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