Triple Play

In this (currently a bit sporadic) podcast, Kiyan and Dylan bring their “expertise” in film and television into the world of movie trilogies. Each episode centers around a trilogy that the duo watched in one sitting, and features behind the scenes information, a brief summary of key plot points, and a discussion on how the movies worked as a trilogy.

Iron Man

Well this is the biggest plot twist of our lifetime.

Last time we got stuck in a cave we were forced to start a podcast, and that’s how we got Zenith. Frankly we all know how that turned out. Pretty well actually. All the best things are made in caves at gunpoint. It’s Iron Man, Iron Man 2, and Iron Man 3. Unlike two months ago these movies are actually connected in a trilogy.


Show-notes:


4:53 Our Spider Man episode. I thought this was more recent.
6:00 Terry Rossio and Ted Elliot.
12:26 This Daredevil movie that came out in 2003. I thought this was more recent too.
13:12 Happy Hogan is played by Jon Favreau in a lot of these Marvel movies.
18:38 Quantum of Solace: 2008. Skyfall: 2012. Spectre: 2015.
30:46 Matthew Libatique is the director of photography for Iron Man 2.
38:08 Iron Man is by Black Sabbath.
51:20 Genndy Tartakovsky is a Russian-American animator who storyboarded Iron Man 2 and created Sym-bionic Titan, which was cancelled for merchandising reasons.
56:56 We also did an episode on The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly (and the other Dollars movies) a few years ago.

Sources and other stuff:
The Making of Iron Man 2 documentary
Robert Downey Jr.’s improvisation in Iron Man 3
On how Iron Man 3 was supposed to have a female villain
Casting Robert Downey Jr.
A few ideas behind Iron Man 1 before anyone really knew what the movie would be about
RDJ getting into the role of Tony Stark
A look back at Iron Man
The Goals Marvel Had When Making Iron Man
More on RDJ’s improvisation
Iron Man 1 production timeline
Some Iron Man 2 info
Jon Favreau getting pissed about Iron Man 2 lol
Even more Iron Man 2 stuff
More about the female villain that could have been in Iron Man 3


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Best Worst Movie

And introducing, the one, the only, TROOOLLLLLLL 2!

Unsurprisingly there was very little expanded universe, well, “stuff” to do for the Troll “trilogy.” Perhaps that’s because Troll isn’t even really a trilogy, and not only that these movies flopped so badly when they came out pretty much every studio within a million years didn’t want to touch it with a twenty foot bottle of Nilbog Milk. It’s Best Worst Movie, written and directed by Michael Stephenson and premiered on March 14, 2009.


Show-notes:


0:29 South by Southwest 2019 starts on March 8.
1:58 MST3K is a show about watching stuff. Kind of like this, but with more little-known movies that are usually considered poorly made. One of the most notoriously bad movies they ever covered was Manos: The Hands of Fate.
2:49 Birdemic and The Room are two other contenders for the worst movie of all time. I haven’t watched either but I doubt they’re worse than Troll 2.
5:41 Troll “trilogy” episode here.
11:20 Still can’t find the full script of the Troll 2 fan sequel, but it’s called Troll 3 Monstrous Beings if you want to try and find it yourself.
11:28 Trust Your Doctor is our Doctor Who podcast.
22:24 Her name was Deborah Reed. Apparently she has an interview in the dvd extras. Here’s the Troll 2 section of her blog. She’s also talked about Troll 2 in various interviews.
24:52 Chuck is a movie about Chuck Wepner, the guy who inspired Rocky.


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Troll

Not overwhelmed. Not underwhelmed. Just whelmed.

We made an extremely poor decision on what to watch this week. Extremely poor. The Holy Grail knight might tell us that we had chosen “poorly.” I’m actually running out of things to say to describe just how bad of an idea this was to even attempt at all, and yet we still decided to go for it. Because why not? It’s the worst movie of all time and quite possibly the least connected trilogy in existence: Troll, Troll 2, and Troll 3. Allegedly.


Show-notes:


1:22 Troll 3 came out in 1993 in the U.S. according to Wikipedia (and IMDB and some other sites), but apparently came out in Italy in either 1989 or 1990. Which means it possibly came out before Troll 2.
1:57 Here’s the Troll 1 making of video if you’re interested.
2:45 Cellar Dweller is another movie directed by John Carl Buechler (pronounced “beekler” – we got it wrong when we introduced him).
4:12 The Neverending Story 1 came out in 1984.
6:35 Princess Bride came out in 1987.
7:57 If any upcoming movie fits into this mid-80s fantasy mold it’s The Kid Who Would Be King. (Maybe? Not exactly, but it’s not like there’s anything closer.)
9:48 I don’t think this is the same Neverending Story “then and now” article that I linked to back then, but this one’s better.
11:34 Heaven’s Gate looks kind of interesting.
15:01 Wayne Knight played Dennis Nedry in Jurassic Park.
19:42 IMDB lists the 1990 release date of Troll 2 without “video premier” and then lists a 1992 with “video premiere.” So the 1990 date is probably theatrical. I was thinking of this article, which says that “Best Worst Movie,” the documentary about Troll 2, was direct to video.
23:30 We confused Michael Stephenson, who plays the kid, with Jason Wright, who plays the boyfriend. The interview we confused with the previous on is here.
29:52 Here’s the blog post in question.
31:34 Troll 3 was direct to video in Italy according to IMDB.
34:25 Quest for the Mighty Sword is the other Troll 3.

Other stuff:
Fast Rewind’s Troll 1 behind the scenes info.


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Chuck

I’ve got a delivery here for Mr. Schreiber?

Well this is a little unfortunate. This movie was pretty lackluster at best, and outright bad at worst. Which is a shame because you’d think the “real life Rocky” would have a much much better movie. Something on the order of, oh I don’t know. Rocky. It’s Chuck, directed by Philippe Falardeau, and released on May 5, 2017.


Show-notes:


6:40 Scream 2 opening.
7:25 Blazing Saddles is a documentary about the American west.
7:40 Naked Gun is mockumentary about the American west.
8:14 Bedtime Stories is a biopic (pronounced biop-ic) about the American west.
10:14 Chuck is a found-footage-style docu-mockumentary about the American west.
13:59 Bohemian Rhapsody is a viral video about European colonization in the western hemisphere.
24:48 It was Harry & Meghan: A Royal Romance. Not surprised to find out it was from Lifetime. Also I was thinking of Catherine Middleton.
32:14 Lock Up is a movie about good old Sly Stallone going to jail.
37:23 First Man is a scrapbooking project about the Great Plains.
47:53 The Imitation Game is a movie about Alan Turing.


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Rocky, Rocky II, Rocky III

I would not appreciate being called a Paulie apologist, frankly.

This week we watch one of the biggest underdogs in history. Much like how our podcasts happen to be the biggest underdogs in movie podcasting history. Which is great, because now we know exactly what we need to do to become the biggest podcast in the world. It’s Rocky I-III, written by Sylvester Stallone and released in 1976, 1979 and 1982.


Show-notes:


6:38 Look how in-depth Rocky’s wikipedia page is. If you didn’t know better you might think this was a real person if you just skimmed the page.
19:20 Francis Ford Coppola is of course famous for the Godfather movies, but he also directed the early 90s Dracula with Keanu Reaves.
22:15 This article compiles a few videos that explain how to make your own steadycam for relatively cheap.
28:54 Roger Ebert is probably the most famous “movie critic” of all time. He passed away in 2013. His website still features review and other articles.

Other stuff:
Stallone’s instagram post explaining how Clubber Lang was originally going to be played by Smokin Joe Frazier.
Link to Stallone’s instagram post so it doesn’t auto convert
Stallone doing headstands and drinking coffee (unfortunately not at the same time)
Some behind the scenes info for Rocky III
Roger Ebert watches Rocky II with Muhammad Ali
Behind the scenes stuff for Rocky II
Rocky 1 info from Mental Floss
Article about how a bunch of stuff in the first movie was actually based on Chuck Wepner’s real life
“Making of” article from Forbes
Some anecdotes from Rocky III
More behind the scenes info for the entire franchise
More Rocky 1 info
Even more Rocky 1 infoBurt Young’s statement to TMZ about Creed
On Paulie’s death in Creed
On Stallone and Young’s falling out
Chuck Wepner finally gets recognized for inspiring the Rocky franchise
Info on the famous running scene
Some info about Stallone leading up to Rocky
The Rocky 1 story again1976 article about Rocky and an interview with Stallone


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The Predator

By which I mean, the Predator franchise killer is this movie.

I think it’s about time to give up on the Predator franchise. If The Predator shows the direction of the franchise, then we should really just. Pack it in. I’m not really exaggerating here. Go and watch it if you don’t believe me. No really. Go. Then come back and listen to us talk about The Predator, directed by Shane Black and released on September 14, 2018.


Show-notes:


2:24 The Nice Guys was the last movie that Shane Black directed and is probably at least five times better than The Predator.
3:13 Fred Decker’s filmography includes some “cult hit” horror movies from the 80s, like The Monster Squad.
5:33 I’ve seen stranger things than Stranger Things.
6:37 I’ve seen things more expansive than The Expanse.
6:42 Our other podcasts, Trust Your Doctor and Zenith, have been recognized for being the two greatest podcasts of all time.
7:26 I’ve seen things chuckier than Chuck.
7:46 And The Book of Henry wasn’t book-y or henry-y enough. Come on, Colin.
10:48 Here are trailers for Aquaman, Shazam (starring Zachary Levi), Venom, Serenity (not Plymouth, dunno why I thought it was called that), Overlord, and Alita.
15:13 Props to Henry Jackman for making a good soundtrack for this shitty movie.
20:31 I’ve been meaning to watch Arrival for 2 years.

 


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Predator, Predator 2, Predators

Pew pew check out these guns.

In space no one can… wait. No sorry wrong 80’s action/horror franchise. What’s the slogan for the Predator movies? Honestly don’t even know. Get to the chopper? If it bleeds we can kill it? Wow these suck. It’s Predator, released in 1987, 1990 and 2010. How does that make sense? Because we watched Predator, Predator 2 and Predators.


Show-notes:


3:02 The Southern Reach trilogy is a book trilogy written by Jeff VanderMeer.
5:09 The Most Dangerous Game is a pretty famous story from 1924.
7:32 Lethal Weapon, like Predator, is another well-known movie from the late 80s.
8:49 The Nice Guys came out in 2016.
25:40 Behold. The majesty of the original Predator suit.
43:45 Sin City is just a movie man I don’t know it’s late.
48:07 The Darjeeling Limited and The Pianist were two 2000s movies with Adrien Brody in it. Too bad Brody is stranded on the Predator planet now.
57:39 Script supervisor or continuity supervisor.
1:08:07 The Women Men Don’t See is a 1973 story by James Tiptree Jr.
1:14:05 Black Hole looks really interesting.

Sources and other stuff:
Making of Predator, Predator 2, and Predators
The oral history of Predator – some (mis)remembrances of Predator


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The First Purge

Honestly surprised Hollywood hasn’t made a gritty Pooh reboot.

This week we purge our bad feelings about podcasting. We just kind of vomit it all out into the recording and then boom it kind of just happens. You know. We purged, so all our episodes should be good for the next year now I think. It’s The First Purge, written by James DeMonaco, directed by Gerard McMurray and release on July 4, 2018.


Show-notes:


6:54 Gone Girl is an ok movie with Ben Affleck in it. Also it was directed by David Fincher.
11:20 CheckOutTrustYourDoctorOurDoctorWhoPodcast
17:19CheckOutZenithOurBlake’s7Podcast
19:27 UFO is UFO.
20:57 Destroyer is pretty awesome. Dietrich Smith did the illustrations.
23:46 The Bluest Eye was Toni Morrison’s first novel.
25:17 Best Mark Twain.
28:51 Before the Law by Franz Kafka.
39:30 Wow can’t believe Children of Men was a box office failure.
51:38 Danger 5 podcast never.


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The Purge, The Purge: Anarchy, The Purge: Election Year

Well, yes. In a sense of the word it is cheese.

Triple Play is  back, one week later, but better late than never really in my opinion. And we’re watching basically the greatest movies we have ever watched for this podcast, it’s The Purge. What would you do during the Purge? I’d pirate The Purge movies to be honest, I think that’d be really weird and meta.


Show-notes:


5:22 The Return of the Archons is an original series Star Trek episode.
8:28 Ethan Hawk played Todd Anderson in Dead Poets Society.
9:11 He also played Goodnight Robicheaux in the new Magnificent 7.
9:42 Gattaca is actually good. You should watch it.
9:55 Don’t watch The Host though. Please, just don’t.
11:31 300 might be the only movie where you can watch Spartans fight werewolves.
11:44 Uncle Grandpa and Danger Mouse are cartoons shows.
11:55 Pride and Prejudice and Zombies is Jane Austen’s lost 7th novel.
12:01 Zipper isn’t a Blumhouse movie, but nobody has heard of it either way.
12:45 Will the wait for the next season of True Detective be worth it?
21:54 Suburbicon is a recent movie that apparently bombed.
21:58 G-Force is a 2009 movie that didn’t bomb.
29:50 The Santa Clause is the Citizen Kane of Christmas-themed movie trilogies.
30:28 Upgrade is apparently pretty good.
51:51 Rick and Morty is a show that represents all the bad things about modern American animation.

Sources and other stuff:
Post-release interview with Jason Blum.
2014 interview with James DeMonaco.
Debate.org’s “Should we have a Purge?” poll.
Psychology Today on the psychology of the Purge.
Transcript of a Quroa interview with Zach Gilford.
Greenpeace ruins the Nazca Lines.
Minute-long video about DeMonaco’s directing style.
Write up about Election Year.
Frank Grillo and Zach Gilford interview.
Behind the scenes featurette for Anarchy.
Election Year blu-ray review with some insight from DeMonaco.


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Ocean’s 11 (1960)

This podcast has really taken a dive if you know what I mean.

This week we kind of mildly tortured ourself with the original Ocean’s 11. Like, the one that was released in 1960. Not the new one, the good one, the Steven Soderbergh one. We watched the old one, the Frank Sinatra/Dean Martin/Sammy Davis Jr. one. It’s Ocean’s 11, released on August 10, 1960.


Show-notes:


2:28 Spyros was played by Akim Tamiroff.
3:13 Check out our Blake’s 7 podcast Zenith if you want.
4:22 Here’s the title sequence. It is pretty cool even if I don’t care for the soundtrack.
25:30 Bamboozled.
32:01 Looks like there are a couple disputed origins for the “Rat Pack” name. You can decide if they’re “good reasons” or not.


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