Inevitable

We’re not doing this for you.

We’re not doing it for us.

We know not at what depths the currents that compelled us to discuss and “review” classic sci-fi tv and movies in a laid-back, slightly analytical, somewhat-humorous fashion run.

So what do we know?

It was all inevitable.

Firefly 1 – Serenity

Is Joss Whedon an auteur?

Those are the fateful lines that begin our journey into this cult favourite television show. Some might even say beloved. Will we agree with this premise? Only time will tell for sure, and at this moment we’ve only watched  single damn episode of the show so how the hell should I know? It’s Firefly episode 1: Serenity, not to be confused with the later concluding movie, also weirdly named Serenity.


Show-notes:
1:10: I had forgotten we watched Lexx at all, to be quite honest with you dear fan. But if you wanted to hear our “journey” into Lexx, check out the beginning of our descent into the depravity that is that series.
5:15: Browncoats*
6:30: Linking a Quora post to explain why Firefly ended so quickly is probably a bad idea, but it was this or ScreenRant and you already know all our thoughts on that.
9:51: Here’s Joss Whedon’s Wonder Woman script for all of you who were desperate to read it I guess. Special shout out to “To say she is beautiful is to almost miss the point. […] Her body is curvaceous, but taut as a drawn bow.” For being the most uncomfortable few lines of text I’ve read today.
10:53: The Nevers got extremely average reviews.
18:50: The “all I know is I must kill” meme actually is pretty funny with the image to go along with it.
22:45: The Bebop Beat is a Cowboy Bebop podcast that seems pretty new. I’ve never listened to it, but could be worth checking out.
24:30: And Spanish.
25:37: We talk a lot about Marinus in our Keys of Marinus revisted episode of Trust Your Doctor.
33:51: Kiyan elaborates on this absolutely correct opinion in our Fifty Shades episode of Triple Play.
54:15: Pacific Rim is a movie by Guillermo del Toro that’s apparently good but I’ve never seen it so I wouldn’t know. (Yeah, same here -Kiyan, 2021)
56:30: Kiyan elaborates on this absolutely correct opinion in our Alien: Resurrection episode of Triple Play.
1:00:29: Here’s an article on how Joss Whedon allegedly took joy in making female writers uncomfortable during writer’s room meetings.
1:03:57: Soylent Green is People!
1:21:50: Magnificent Seven is a definite and unabashed American remake of Seven Samurai.
1:25:20: Internet Movie Firearms Database is a surprisingly robust site.
1:26:53: Star Cops was the first show we watched for this podcast. Good times.
1:32:00: Just cause I’m curious, Star Wars: Forces of Destiny is a series of short animated episodes that were released over 2017 and 2018.
1:39:15: The original Twilight Zone started in 1959. The 1985 Twilight Zone is the second series.
1:40:50: Who the hell is Kwanseer? And what is his role in the Aladdin TV series? Stay tuned for more information.


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Firefly 0 – Intro

So. Shall we start?

We’ve never really done one of these intro episodes before, but it was about time we actually announced the show we were going to watch… before we actually watch it. Well. At least before we release episodes on it. We’re watching Firefly! Yay! Or boo, I dunno, take your pick. Did you know Apple doesn’t like it when you try to set an episode number to 0? Who’d’ve thunk it.


Show-notes:
You need show-notes for this?


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Lexx 4 – Gigashadow

I’m giga-over this show at this point.

Speaking of over it, I really procrastinated on writing this little summary. Honestly even now I don’t know what I should say. So I’m kind of saying this, I guess. Not much more to say on the matter really, Lexx S1 is done and so are we. It’s Gigashadow, written by Paul Donovan, Jeffery Hirschfield and Lex Gigeroff and released on September 11, 1997.


Show-notes:
3:30: We watched Troll 2 for one of our podcasts, Triple Play.
6:04: If there’s one thing I’ve learned watching Lexx, it’s that everything changes.
9:26: S’mores are a thing that are typically cooked over a campfire and are deliciously unhealthy and are probably part of the reason so many people have diabetes.
14:54: If you’re interested in the Liberator, that means you’re probably also just as or vastly more interested in the show it’s from, Blake’s 7, which we did a podcast, Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast, on.
35:45: I was thinking of these worms that leech off of crickets and mayflies.
40:55: Pinocchio 3000 actually looks bonkers.
42:13: We actually watched the 2d animated special “Kung Fu Panda: Secret of the Furious Five” over on Triple Play, and not Kung Fu Panda: Legends of Awesomeness.
43:13: We also watched the Bourne Identity tv movie on Triple Play.
1:07:16: Go and check out Trust Your Doctor while you wait for more Inevitable.


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Lexx 3 – Eating Pattern

I have an eating pattern, it’s called eat at 9pm and never again.

So this morning I edited the podcast while eating cereal. So I guess you could say I had an eating pattern while editing eating pattern. Isn’t that wild how that kind of stuff works? I think it’s pretty cool but you never know, maybe the audience disagrees like they always seem to. It’s Eating Pattern, written by Paul Donovan, Jeffery Hirschfield and Lex Gigeroff and released on September 4, 1997.


Show-notes:
2:20: I’m not gonna put a link to that in the show notes. Lol.
4:47: Here’s that transcript of Eating Pattern, for the morbidly curious.
5:29: My personal favorite Doctor Who transcript site is Chakoteya.
5:52: Here’s the Lexxplorations site, which I’m going to leave here and then back away slowly.
7:39: Meatloaf, not to be confused with Meat Loaf.
11:49: Check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast.
13:24: I’m going to bring Scorpio and the Liberator to you courtesy of the Blake’s 7 wiki.
29:41: Jackass: The Movie came out in 2002, coming right on the heels of the TV show, which aired from 2000 to 2002.
40:57: Kiyan is probably thinking about Sting being in Dune, rather than Rutger Hauer.
42:22: Zwölf apparently means “twelve” in German. Also einsatz can mean “mission” according to Wiktionary.
49:12: Google Translate tells me it’s Hindi. Here’s what the name actually was: विस्मयादिबोधक चिह्न.
52:17: Here’s the Horizon Blake’s 7 forum.


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Lexx 2 – Super Nova

This week Kiyan drops millions of Lexx puns and I hate it.

While watching this all I could think of was that I would love it if a supernova just swallowed me whole. Like if I could just be absolved of my responsibility of watching this movie for this podcast. And the best way to do that is to just be absorbed by a black hole. It’s Super Nova, written by Pual Donovon, Jeffery Hirschfield and Lex Gigeroff and released on April 25, 1997.


Show-notes:
7:50: For more on the Borad and other Doctor Who characters, check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who podcast.
13:29:
Far be it from me to defend Lexx, but apparently lava can actually get hot enough to look white.
16:39: Listen to Triple Play when it comes back to hear Kiyan defend his opinion on Fifty Shades of Grey.
17:39: Brunis*
20:48:
The Mandalorian uses a digital wall powered by the Unreal Engine to generate realistic landscapes without a greenscreen or chroma key.
27:10: It’s actually a little disputed it Socrates actually said “the only true wisdom is knowing that I know nothing”, since it only appears in Plato’s account of his works, and there is not evidence he himself said it and that Plato didn’t just randomly add it.
30:04: I did not bleep them out in post.
35:28: Flat Stanley is actually an entire series, so go knock yourself out.
53:08: Yep, I was right about who Ilene was here.
59:25: If you’d like the try pronouncing it at home, it’s’ pronounced ‘Folkjokeopus‘. Also, here’s McGoohan’s Blues.
1:03:45: The concept of the selfie has long predated the word. Because they were self-portraits.
1:11:29: We still have a blog. Haven’t updated it in months now though lol.
1:11:52: Check out this sick video of Peter Parker being a jerk.
1:13:31: Check out our Blake’s 7 podcast, Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast.
1:15:08: I don’t know how accurate it is, but forebears.io has a list of the most common names in the world.


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Lexx 1 – I Worship His Shadow

It’s I Worship His Shadow, written by Pual Donovon, Jeffery Hirschfield and Lex Gigeroff and released on April 18, 1997.


Show-notes:

1:51: Check out our other podcasts, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast and Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast.
1:56: The Lexx Wiki is superb, for example here’s the page on I Worship His Shadow.
6:27: Believe it or not I actually found an example of exactly what we were talking about at this moment.
8:43: @BobRushy on twitter is who I was talking about here.
9:35: Here’s a webpage that collates all of the behind the scenes videos.
11:59: Gareth Roberts wrote a variety of Doctor Who material, but the most famous is probably The Unicorn and the Wasp and The Lodger.
15:08: What would you do if you collected all the dragon balls?
17:35: There’s apparently a capsule hotel really close to where I live. In case you don’t know what those are here’s Wikipedia to the rescue to tell you what a capsule hotel is as always.
20:57: Wow, Kiyan was right, it really does look like a low budget version of the Final Fantasy 10 intro.
21:30: Just watch the trailer for Birdemic, that’s all you need to.
22:01: This is what the monsters in A Quiet Place looked like. (Lol at the filename for this being “Dontmakeasound.webp”)
25:22: The episode of Blake’s 7 is aptly titled Dawn of the Gods, and you can listen to what we thought of Dawn of the Gods on our episode covering it.
35:18: Here’s Black Manta for all you Lexx fans who want to check if I’m speaking the tru tru.
37:25: John McAfee is an absolute lunatic and I highly recommend you stay away from him if you ever meet him. I’m pretty sure this is the long article Kiyan is referring to. (It was actually this John McAfee article from wired.)
38:39: Wikipedia has a surprisingly detailed page on the theory of quantum immortality and quantum suicide.
42:15: The thorax is the powerhouse of the insect.
54:31: Speaking of people liking this earnestly, here’s Den of Geek trying to decipher why Lexx is such a cult classic now.
56:55: The Lexx Timeline is impossible to navigate.
57:49: I’m going to just leave this link to Lexxplorations here for you.
1:01:00: Sybil is from 1974 and is a television film, so it’s likely this is the same Sybil.
1:02:19: ß


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The Prisoner (2009) 6 – Checkmate

Checkwait a minute, I almost made the same joke as the last time we did a Checkmate.

We’ve come to the end of another show and rather unceremoniously bid it farewell for another. Sorry The Prisoner 2009, we hardly knew ye. How could we? You only had 6 episodes, that was like a month and a half of podcasting at best! It’s a good thing we didn’t make a Prisoner only podcast otherwise we would have really been done now. It’s Checkmate, written by Bill Gallagher and released on November 17, 2009.


Show-notes:
1:31: Way back here in episode 1 of this season.
6:30: I don’t remember this dream at all, in fact this is the first I’m hearing of it.
17:53: To “lie in state” is to have your body displayed in a state building so that all citizens may come and see it before you get buried.
18:09: This scene from Spider-Man 3 might be one of the greatest in the history of cinema.
26:50: I Know There’s an Answer is a Beach Boys song, not to be confused with the similarly titled I Know It’s Today from Shrek: The Musical.
28:30: Here’s the opening to The Prisoner in case you wanted to get it stuck in your head agian.
31:07: And, just for you dear listener, here’s Ubik again for you just in case you forgot.
32:22: For even more fun, check out the page on Ubik on pkd.fandom.com
36:33: The best picture of the green dome is right here, on Pinterest of all places.
44:30: We’re still doing the whole blog thing on our blog. We just don’t post every week anymore. (That only lasted like 3 months lol.)
45:25: Keith was on our episode covering “A. B. and C.” in the original Prisoner.
49:00: We talk a lot about what we would do if we were in charge of Doctor Who on our Doctor Who podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast.
51:48: Trump’s approval rating never exceeded 49% in the four years he was in office.

Some other blogs that talk about The Prisoner (2009) – Checkmate:
Den of Geek
Pop Apostle
The TV Obsessed


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The Prisoner (2009) 5 – Schizoid

Schizoid is such a funny word.

Schizoid is a really fun word too actually. You know it would be fun if I had a schizoid, they could edit the podcast and do all the podcast stuff and I could just sleep instead. Not like I’m forgoing sleep to get these podcasts done, no siree, I’m completely healthy. I promise, I’m getting a full 8 hours every night. It’s Schizoid, written by Bill Gallagher and released on November 17, 2009.


Show-notes:
0:40: None of these bits made it into the final episode because I recorded them before starting the episode.
11:36: The study I am referring to was published in Nature Neuroscience, March 2015: “Retrieval induced adaptive forgetting of competing memories via cortical pattern suppresion”. If you do not have access to Nature Neuroscience, this Bang! Article sums up the core result, i.e. that trying to remember things makes it easier to forget them.
13:00: Here’s our episode on the original Prisoner’s Schizoid Man if you want to listen to that for some reason.
35:37: As far as I’m concerned Stanford is a trustworthy source and they tell me that you can’t dream up a new face. You just generally reuse ones you’ve seen elsewhere before.
41:20: Philip K. Dick basically only ever wrote weird things about how reality is a lie and the only truth in the world is the truth you can’t understand, or something like that. I dunno man I’m a physicist not an englishicist.
41:26: Ubik is a book whose actual physical existence distorts space-time. This is not a joke, please, the copy on my shelf is annihilating my entire bedroom, send physicists.
44:24: We talked about Patrick McGoohan’s misogyny at length during our original run of The Prisoner, which you can find in the Inevitable category on our site.
52:10: Some of the blogs I’m referencing are linked down below.
53:47: You can listen to our coverage of Children of the Stones on Season 2 of Inevitable and you can listen to our coverage of Star Cops on Season 1 of Inevitable.
54:48: Lexx is apparently really weird.
1:00:36: Our coverage and one and a half hour long head scratch over Fall Out.

Some other blogs that talk about The Prisoner (2009) – Schizoid:
Den of Geek
Pop Apostle
The TV Obsessed


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The Prisoner (2009) 4 – Darling

Oh my darling, oh my darling, oh my darling…

… Number 6. Number 6 was lost forever, oh my darling number 6. That’s how it goes right? That’s the version I remember being taught in school by 334, he was the best teacher we ever had. Some say that 571 was better, but I disagree, 334 is always going to be my favourite. It’s Darling, written by Bill Gallagher and released on November 16, 2009.


Show-notes:
3:11: You can join us at the beginning of our Children of the Stones journey here if you haven’t listened to it.
8:25: I was unable to find a picture of the prisoner DVD menu, but this is the key art Kiyan referred to for the first disk menu, and this is the shrouded in darkness image I referred to for disk 2.
23:05: Ebay has forums and the forums are rife with discussions on spending too much money on weird things on Ebay.
29:47: Warning: Both of the following links are potentially graphic. But pigs do in fact know that they’re being led to slaughter, however they’re not the only animal, as cows seem to understand as well.
35:46: Jiggery-Pokery
36:20: Scientific-American has an interesting article advancing the theory that humans have evolved a chemical and biological process that detects and prevents sex with close kin. For those who are averse to Scientific America, the name of the mechanism is the Westermarck Effect.
45:41: I had the date utterly wrong, the infamous “family eats oranges with peel and all” Reddit Post was made on February 5, 2021.
54:01: The episode I was talking about here was Many Happy Returns, which we covered with Sgt. Draino.
1:04:41: Here’s a picture of a trashcan with a step. You’re welcome.

Some other blogs that talk about The Prisoner (2009) – Darling:
Den of Geek
Pop Apostle
Dan Owen


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The Prisoner (2009) 3 – Anvil

Anvils are great but without hammers what would you even use them for?

You ever realize how close “Anvil” is to “Arrival”? I only noticed now because I almost misspelled Anvil like three times while writing this description. In fact this sentence was the fourth, can you believe it? I can’t. But at least I know how to spell now. It’s Anvil, written by Bill Gallagher and released on November 16, 2009.


Show-notes:
3:11: The iconic shot of Number 2 looking at the phone in question.
4:35: Interestingly if you google “Harry and Rupert Gregson-Williams” the first result is Rupert Gregson-Williams. At least it was for me anyway. Thanks Google.
6:38: This is the best version of the Prisoner 2009 opening sequence, so you can hear the title theme for yourself.
16:00: Have this article debating whether school uniforms are good or bad just because I thought it would be funny to put in this show-note.
16:35: I looked up the Chimes of Big Ben transcript here. I guess the line is “What has been created is an international community, a blueprint for world order.”
19:35: Honestly don’t know what happened here, can’t tell if Kiyan actually doubled his voice or if the recording skipped. Could be both.
20:45: Young man, there’s no need to feel down. Even though I know the world is falling apart you can pick yourself off the ground. Wait hang on that’s not right.
23:47: In My Mind… In MY MIND… you’re smart.
25:20: As promised, here’s the link to that behind the scenes video. Never say your old pal Dylan didn’t do anything for you.
40:59: Here are the lyrics to Heroes and Villains for you to analyze along with at home! Here’s the livejournal post on the whole Beach Boys connection again.
43:15: Nick Kent writes about Brian Wilson’s attempts to replicate auditory hallucinations in his book: The Dark Stuff: Selected Writings on Rock Music.
44:07: Pop Apostle has a picture of Pet Sounds on Michael’s table in his New York apartment.
47:51: According to Wikipedia, the length of Heroes and Villains is 4:53 on Brian Wilson Presents Smile and 3:37 on Smiley Smile. I was unable to verify which version was used in this episode.
59:48: Snopes pretty vehemently denies that Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds is about LSD and they ahve some powerful sources so I guess I’m inclined to believe them.
1:04:20: I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered.

Some other blogs that talk about The Prisoner (2009) – Anvil:
Cathode Ray Tube
The TV Obsessed
Under the Radar


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