Inevitable

We’re not doing this for you.

We’re not doing it for us.

We know not at what depths the currents that compelled us to discuss and “review” classic sci-fi tv and movies in a laid-back, slightly analytical, somewhat-humorous fashion run.

So what do we know?

It was all inevitable.

The Prisoner (2009) 1 – Arrival

The Prisoner Returns!

This is probably the most divisive show that we’ve done for Inevitable. Our fans have given us various opinions, from bad to great to love to dishonor on the Prisoner’s family. And yet here we are, forging forth and doing it anyway. Because 1) we want to and 2) it’s best to make your own opinions. It’s Arrival, written by Bill Gallagher and released on November 15, 2009.


Show-notes:
1:25: You can find our new blog here. We planned on updating once a week at first, but we realized we couldn’t keep that up with how busy we are lol. We have two Prisoner posts up so far. The first is an introduction to the 1980 Prisoner video game and the second is a playthrough of it.
8:00: Our previous season on The Prisoner (1967) starts with Episode 1 – Arrival as well.
8:10: You can find the Could it Have Been Worse? article on the Unmutual Prisoner Archive.
12:26: If you want to listen to us talk way too much about Doctor Who for some reason, check out our Doctor Who podcast Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast. Also the name of the the city where this series was filmed is Swakopmund.
15:00: Buy your own copy of the Prisoner miniseries.
18:02: Pop Apostle’s page on this episode.
19:15: Here’s an example page from the AMC blog index, as well as one of the production notes that I referenced.
44:10: Here is the Wikipedia page for On Exactitude in Science as well as an online copy of the story in both its original Spanish and an English translation. Also, it was Baudrillard who touched on this story.
51:26: Do Not Forsake Me Oh My Darling
1:10: Here’s our episode on A, B, and C with Keith as a guest in our first season on The Prisoner. We talk about technology that was sci-fi in the 60s but real now.
1:05:30: If you want to hear us talk about an actual PJ Hammond episode, check out our episodes on Sapphire and Steel, like this one, the first episode.
1:13:03: And if you want to listen to us talk about movie trilogies for whatever reason, check out Triple Play: A Movie Trilogy Podcast, our movie trilogy podcast.
1:25:48: If you want to listen to a great Doctor Who podcast that covers Classic Who episodes in “excruciating detail” (their words, not mine), check out Krynoid Podcast.


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The Prisoner 18 – In My Mind

I have no mind left after this show.

So we’ve finally actually finished yet another show. No more Prisoner. I swear. Absolutely none. We will do no more Prisoner ever.  The next season of Inevitable, as usual, will have absolutely nothing to do with this season. You know how it goes right? It’s In My Mind, written by Chris Rodley and released on October 30, 2017.


Show-notes
11:20: Check out Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast on which we Pronounced Stephen Greif’s Name Wrong for About One Year.
13:16: Midnight Only’s write-up on Once Upon a Time includes Alain Carrazé and Hélène Oswald’s brief portrait of the infamous press conference .
19:29: The movie shot at the Huntley Hotel was Point Blank.
27:33: “That guy” = Ian L. Rakoff
29:12: Apparently the meme was real? According to CNN anyway.
51:49: Arrival, Chimes of Big Ben, Free for All, It’s Your Funeral, Checkmate, Many Happy Returns, Schizoid, ABC, The General, Dance, Hammer, Do not Forsake, Living in Harmony, Girl Who was Death, Change of Mind, Once Upon a Time, Fall Out
1:03:45: Reverse deja vu = jamais vu
1:09:36: The audio takes a hit here cause I didn’t realize Audacity wasn’t using the mic. Sorry.
1:16:30: Check out our other podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast.
1:19:50: Check out the Tin Dog Podcast and Round the Archives.
1:28:30: We do a movie trilogy podcast called Triple Play, which we’ll be doing after this season of Inevitable is done, i.e. now.


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The Prisoner 17 – Fall Out

Help, I’ve fallen out and I can’t get up!

And so we come to the end of yet another show on Inevitable. We’re really just motoring through them now, and honestly with the quarantine and everything it works out pretty well given the lack of “going out” we’re all doing. And so with that I present to you definitely the last episode of this season absolutely. It’s Fall Out, written by Patrick McGoohan and aired on February 1, 1968.


Show-notes:


16:30: Here’s one person’s interpretation of Play-doh’s cave as it pertains to education.
47:52: Check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast
53:47: Here’s the Bonnie and Clyde scene where they get shot to smithereens.
55:21: Here’s the syringe scene. And yes, it was from Saw 2. Watch at your own risk.
1:04:08: Here’s a definition of heterotopia that touches on stuff The Prisoner talks about.
1:05:55: No pun intended.
1:10:21: It is Paul.
1:12:43: Mise en abyme
1:14:06: And if you want to hear us talk about the Matrix and other movie trilogies, check out our movie trilogy podcast Triple Play: A Movie Trilogy Podcast.

Sources and other junk:
Pop Apostle
Midnight Only
The View From the Junkyard
The Unmutual Prisoner Article Archive
Anorak Zone
Balladeer’s Blog


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The Prisoner 16 – Once Upon a Time

Once Upon a Time in the Village…

… there lived a young boy named Patrick. Now Patrick was an adventurous young lad, who got into loads of trouble. It was pretty soon he started to grow up and discover what all teenage boys do: girls. Patrick was special though because he also discovered something else around the same time: misogyny. It’s Once Upon a Time, written by Patrick McGoohan and aired on January 25, 1968.


Show-note
21:48: Leo McKern is the best around. Nothing’s gonna ever keep him down.
40:22: The old cartoon we were talking about here was “Mickey’s Trailer”
41:42: Check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who podcast, for all your Doctor Who and Torchwood needs.
47:36: Wiktionary says sitcom comes from situation comedy, which is basically exactly what we describe it as being here.
57:44: If you like movies, why not check out our movie trilogy podcast Triple Play: A Movie Trilogy Podcast? It desperately needs the listeners, and we’ve covered such masterpieces as Troll 2 and The Neverending Story 3.
1:00:05: Threw it on the ground.

Sources and other junk:
Pop Apostle
Midnight Only
The View From the Junkyard
The Unmutual Prisoner Article Archive
Anorak Zone
Balladeer’s Blog


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The Prisoner 15 – The Girl Who Was Death

Lots of titles in The Prisoner seem to refer to death…

You ever heard that song about how God is a girl? Well maybe this is kind of like that, and The Prisoner is saying that Death is actually a girl too. I’m not sure about the veracity of that statement, of course, so when I’m dying I’ll report back with my findings about who or what even the grim reaper is. I’ll be sure to send them your best regards too. It’s The Girl Who Was Death, written by Terence Feely and aired on January 18, 1968.


Show-notes:
13:22: Check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast if you want to listen to us talk about Doctor Who and Torchwood for way too long.
16:25: Baseball and cricket evolved from rounders, which I’ve never heard of but is apparently still played today.
23:41: Sideburns come from United States general Ambrose Burnside. Make sure to prepare yourself mentally before clicking this link and seeing this guy’s sideburns. You might need it.
28:30Alright so fine James Bond was the one who stuck the broom handle in and not the other way around, but like whatever man.
35:48 Incidents at Disneyland California.
36:27: Ghost Rider is a sketch-ass rollercoaster at Knott’s Berry Farm, an amusement park in Southern California.
39:20: Yeah, I have no idea what this stuff was called. I remember it being like canvas that you do something to to make it moldable or something like that. If anyone knows, hit us up and tell us.
43:51: Hey, we discussed James Wan and Leigh Whannel once.
50:20: I could barely find anything on sea-washed lighthouses, the ones that jut up out of the water, but this wave washed lighthouses page implies that they’re built on rocks or reefs that are only accessible at low tide.
53:21: This Napoleon family tree makes me dizzy.
1:06:24: Anchoring bias is when you rely heavily on a single piece of information, usually the first one you hear on a given topic.
1:20:30: If you want to listen to us do what we’re doing here but with Blake’s 7, check out Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast, our Blake’s 7 podcast.

Sources and other junk:
Pop Apostle
Midnight Only
The View From the Junkyard
The Unmutual Prisoner Article Archive (here’s an interview with bowler John Drake)
Anorak Zone
Balladeer’s Blog


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The Prisoner 14 – Living In Harmony

I prefer living in disharmony.

The old west is actually a pretty weird place to live if you think about it. Moreso than a lot of times in human history, you could just die at any time. Slice your face shaving? Sepsis. Get shot in the foot? Bleed out. Look at the guy in the saloon the wrong way? Death. Go to the brothel? STD. And your reward for putting up with all of this? Do you get to live in a nice hotel resort? No. You get a whole ton of dirt. Dirt and dust. It’s Living in Harmony, written by David Tomblin and aired on December 29, 1967.


Show-notes:


8:45: According to Wikipedia, Arrival was first broadcast in the U.S. on CBS on Saturday, June 1, 1968.
31:35: If you want to listen to us do what we’re doing here but with shows like Doctor Who and Torchwood, check out our Doctor Who podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast.

Sources and other junk:
Pop Apostle
Midnight Only
The View From the Junkyard
The Unmutual Prisoner Article Archive
Anorak Zone
Balladeer’s Blog


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The Prisoner 13 – Do Not Forsake Me Oh My Darling

I wonder what this song this episode is named after really sounds like.

Today in long as heck names that are a little bit meaningless: a name we didn’t actually come up with. I mean, let’s be fair we’ve definitely come up with some long and inconsequential or confusing names. But for once in our lifetimes, the long and useless name was not invented by Decorative Vegetable, it was invented by McGoohan McGoohan. It’s Do Not Forsake Me Oh My Darling, written by Vincent Tillsley and aired on December 22, 1967.


Show-notes:

4:31: If you want to listen to us do what we do here but with shows like Doctor Who and Torchwood, check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who podcast.
11:37: The “Do Not Forsake Me Oh My Darling” band. LIVE. Ok not really. It’s just some of their music videos. Close enough.
46:07: I couldn’t find the scene by itself anywhere. 🙁 And I decided not to break copyright laws lol.
57:57: We also do a movie trilogy podcast called Triple Play. Check it out cause it desperately needs the listeners.

Sources and other junk:
Pop Apostle
Midnight Only
The View From the Junkyard
The Unmutual Prisoner Article Archive
Anorak Zone
Balladeer’s Blog


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The Prisoner 12 – A Change of Mind

As the title says, this week we have a Change of Mind in how good The Prisoner is.

I kind of wish we gave titles to these episodes because this one would have definitely been “Misogynist Moment of the Week.” Everyone talks about separating the art from the artist but what do you do when the art IS the artist? What do you do when the misogyny of Patrick McGoohan is also the misogyny of #6? This seems like a philosophical question of the kind of complexity that exceeds the purview of this podcast. It’s A Change of Mind, written by Roger Parkes and aired on December 15, 1967.


Show-notes:
11:37: “Where’s Waldo?” is “Where’s Wally?” everywhere outside of North America.
28:55: Here’s the transorbital lobotomy from Bioshock Infinite.
40:05: Apparently the Lord Kitchener poster in Britain came before the U.S.’ Uncle Same poster.
52:30: If you want to listen to us talk about shows like Doctor Who and Torchwood, check out our Doctor Who podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast.

Sources and other junk:
Pop Apostle
Midnight Only
The View From the Junkyard
The Unmutual Prisoner Article Archive
Anorak Zone
Balladeer’s Blog


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The Prisoner 11 – It’s Your Funeral

It’s like that movie I never watched, Death at a Funeral.

I was reading the last sentence of this description and I’m pretty sure my brain shorted out. Mainly because it features the same word twice in a row. Can you guess what word it’s going to be before you get there? Will your brain even process it as two different words or do you think you’ll just see it as a single word, realize you didn’t catch the double word,a nd go back to reread it. I guess you’ll find out shortly. It’s It’s Your Funeral, written by Michael Cramoy and aired on December 8, 1967.


Show-notes:


32:05: James Mitose developed a martial art called kosho shorei-ryu kenpo.
56:42: If you want to listen to us talk about Doctor Who for hours on end, check out our Doctor Who podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast.

Sources and other junk:
Pop Apostle
Midnight Only
The View From the Junkyard
The Unmutual Prisoner Article Archive
Anorak Zone
Balladeer’s Blog


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The Prisoner 10 – Hammer into Avil

This week on the Prisoner: Number 6 tries his hand at Blacksmithing.

My dad once actually had a penchant to want to get into blacksmithing. He had been watching lots of tv shows about it and thought he might want to try his hand at it. Sadly the HOA here wasn’t about to let my dad install a furnace in his garage. They were probably fine with everything else, but fire is a no go you know? It’s Hammer into Anvil, written by Roger Woddis and aired on December 1, 1967.


Show-notes:


42:47: If you want to listen to us do what we’re doing here but with Doctor Who-universe shows like Doctor Who and Torchwood, check out our Doctor Who podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast.
45:05: Or if Blake’s 7 is more your speed, check out our completed Blake’s 7 podcast, Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast.

Sources and other junk:
Pop Apostle
Midnight Only
The View From the Junkyard
The Unmutual Prisoner Article Archive
Midnight Only
Balladeer’s Blog


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