2021

The Robert Langdon Trilogy

Here it is, our crowning achievement, obviously.

I honestly didn’t think these movies could be that bad. Hoo boy was I surprised then when we actually watched these bad boys. And when I say bad boys I mean bad. Tom Hanks, the absolute opposite of whatever the hell Dan The Man Brown had in mind when he was writing Robert Langdon, is here to save the day. Yes, that Tom Hanks. It’s DaVinci Code, Angels and Demons and Inferno.


Show-notes:
2:13 Troll and Triple X are both trilogies we’ve unfortunately watched for this podcast.
5:39: Here’s the exact excerpt I’m reading from at this point.
12:30: Might as well link to The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo because it’s a good movie you should all watch.
13:35: The American Society of Cinematographers has an article about The DaVinci Code filming in Paris as well as the lighting details of the whole movie.
22:02: Screenrant (groan) has an article about what’s real and what’s fake in The DaVinci Code. Here’s a much better article about what’s real and what’s fake from NBC.
26:20: National Treasure came out in 2004, we should note, not DaVinci Code.
29:13: Apparently this is completely wrong. The Writers Guild of America has apparently gone on strike 5 times in the last like 80 years.
34:43: Here’s the CERN page on what they do, thanks to Angels and Demons.
48:56:  Forbes tried to figure out why Inferno was a domestic box office disaster. The answer is not good.
55:42: There is going to be a play version of DaVinci Code though.
56:40: This joke aged well. Season 5 of Triple Play will be our last.
57:28: We did not do this.
59:49: We didn’t do this either.

Some other miscellaneous sources:
An article detailing the differences between the versions of DaVinci Code
Some BTS videos on Angels and Demons: Writing the Script & In Search of the True Story
An article from the Guardian on all the fake tourists they used to pad the Vatican in Angels and Demons
Town and Country Magazine talked about the historicity of Inferno
An interview with Tom Hanks and Felicity Jones about Inferno


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How to Train Your Dragon

I love it when we do animated trilogies, don’t you?

I hope you like us referring to the director by his first name and first name only for the entirety of this 1 hour 15 minute podcast episode. No, he’s not a personal friend of ours, we just don’t want to keep having to pronounce his last name. It’s a really annoying last name and it’s french and we didn’t want to continuously get it wrong. Hope you like the name Dean. It’s How to Train Your Dragon 1, 2, and 3.


Show-notes:
6:42: Our Kung Fu Panda episode.
11:50: Here’s a USA Today article where Stephen King talks about the change to the ending of The Mist and why he likes it better than his original ending.
23:18: Roger Deakins is a well noted cinematographer who actually also has his own podcast.
24:30: We also talked about this on our Beverly Hills Chihuahua episode, believe it or not.
29:00: Hollywood Reporter has an article talked about Dean DeBlois and his personal touches in the film.
32:00: Read more about both the change in villain but also the controversy around the resultant villain.
35:50: The technology used to make How to Train Your Dragon 2 is pretty well documented.
42:35: This interview is linked in the previous show note for 32:00.
45:38: Never forget George Lucas lying about Jar Jar being based on minstrel shows.
49:42: Here’s an article from phys.org with extensive sourcing that outlines the misunderstanding upon which the alpha/beta/omega structure is based on.
1:07:55: Don’t worry, of course I’m going to include some pictures of the How to Train Your Dragon Live Spectacular for you.
1:09:40: Check out our episode of the Qatsi trilogy.
1:10:22: Listening to this back 6 months later, in a sort of meta sense, I didn’t remember anything about How to Train Your Dragon.
1:11:16: Nope.

Some other miscellaneous sources:
Video on animal influences for both the Nightfury and the Lightfury
Review of HTTYD 3 from The Wrap with some bts information
New York Times behind the scenes article
Dean DeBlois interview with Deadline
Digital Media World talks a lot about the animation process behind the first How to Train Your Dragon movie.

 

 


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Fifty Shades of Grey

For some reason I never started this draft beforehand.

Normally I start a draft for each of these episodes to store all my sources in. And for some reason I just… didn’t for this trilogy. I’m not really sure why. I know I had a bunch of links. I know I put them somewhere. Maybe that got lost somewhere along the way idk. Well whatever. It’s Fifty Shades of Grey and its two sequels.


Show-notes:
6:44:
Masters of the Universe is a He-Man series. Not to be confused with the fanfiction 50 shades is based on, Master of the Universe (singular).
9:49:
Narrator: He did not end up reading them.
16:27:
Here’s a short little video where Sam Taylor-Johnson talks about EL James and why she doesn’t return for the future movies.
18:06:
Persona is a movie from 1966, directed by Swiss American director Ingmar Bergman.
41:15:
Here you go, The Guardian reported on Niall Leonard writing the screenplay for the 50 shades sequels.
43:10:
The average age of Hollywood directors is 45, apparently. ~10% of them are over the age of 60.
1:03:14:
I actually tried to find this exact statistic and got way more articles about how to get out of an abusive relationship rather than statistics on them, so that was neat.


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The Dark Knight

Yes, we did watch these great masterpieces of cinema history.

So this episode is late because guess what? I went into my little folder, with all of this season recorded, and edited “Episode 4.3”. Seems correct, right? Turns out I had misnumbered the episodes, and so I actually edited episode 4 of this season, that is, the next episode after this (50 Shades of Grey). Anyway, this episode is a week late and it’s obviously worth the wait. It’s Batman Begins, The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises.


Show-notes:
10:30: Check out this in-depth look into the the design of Gotham and its Chicagoesque roots and real filming locations.
12:06: Christopher Nolan was interviewed by the Director’s Guild of America, and in that interview, he talks about his preference for practical effects as well as other aspects of the filmmaking process.
15:22: I had a really good source for this but the link is dead now. So you’ll have to make do with this How Stuff Works article.
16:30: Yes, this is a real thing. The first speeding ticket was given for someone going 8 MPH in a 2 MPH zone.
21:09: The pronunciation of Ra’s Al Ghul comes down to whether you prefer the Arabic (Rahz) or Hebrew (Raysh) pronunciations.
22:32: Listen to our Taken episode to hear this snafu in real time.
32:42: Check out our episode on The Predator, or even the original Predator trilogy.
36:06: We actually don’t know any more than when we recorded this because the Flash movie got delayed all to hell. All we know is that Michael Keaton confirmed he was in it.< And we have some set photos.
37:59: Here’s some details on the Batpod and the insane driving skills it required.
43:21: For some reason I decided to joker laugh in the background, dunno why I did this.
57:02: UCSC, a pretty legitimate source, says that Dickens was not paid by the word, and was actaully paid by chapter/installment. Case closed I guess.
58:53: Here, read these Madame Defarge influences for yourself, completely unsourced.
1:05:40: Tom Hardy did an interview with The Vulture where he talked about his inspiration for the voice.
1:09:52: Look I even have an official source to back me up, the International Atomic Energy Agency.
1:12:08: Johnathon Nolan learned physics to write Interstellar. Here, he talks about it with famous physicist that I’ve met Kip Thorne.

Other sources:

Movie Chronicles
IGN
The Independent


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Beverly Hills Chihuahua

“Kill me now” – Me, apparently 6 months ago.

Honestly, in hindsight, I have absolutely no reasonable clue as to why we covered this trilogy. Literally none at all. But at some point we decided, hey, let’s sit down and watch Beverly Hills Chihuahua and that’s gonna be a good time. So we did, we say down and we watched the movies, and reader, it was not a good time. It was an acid trip through a land of sheer discrimination and horrifying cgi.


Show-notes:
4:30: Here’s some information on 2001: A Space Odyssey and The Prisoner, because it’s interesting. Yeah I just linked Wikipedia. What are you gonna do about it? Also, check out Inevitable: A Classic Sci-Fi Podcast, on which we watched and discussed The Prisoner (1967 and 2009).
8:14: Air Buddies was extremely successful. Here, American Kennel Club talks about it a bit.
10:01: Tippet Studios actually still exists, and has taken on much better projects than Beverly Hills Chihuahua, namely things like The Mandalorian and The Falcon and the Winter Soldier.
10:16: Here’s an article with some pictures of Heitor Pereira recording the score to Beverly Hills Chihuahua.
11:46: Dalmatians are a notoriously difficult breed to take care of, so it was quite concerning that 101 Dalmatians sparked “dalmatian fever”.
17:11: I couldn’t find this video because every search term I could think of to find it gave me articles and videos about kid celebrities. Great.
31:28: I didn’t actually record the link of the review that I’m pulling this quote from sadly, and I’m probably not going to be able to find it now.
43:00: Here’s that mom blogger who attended a “behind the scenes” even of BHC 3 and asked questions to the dogs.
44:45: If you’ve never heard the story of the “no brown M&M’s”, allow me to enlighten you.
57:03: Amazingly, somebody actually downloaded the pilot to the animated tv show, so here, go watch it for yourself.

Sources and other stuff:
Daily Mail
Movie Insider


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Mad Max

Don’t you get it? He’s MAD!

We start off season 4 of Triple Play off with a quite extensive discussion about the merits of Australian Cinema. We also completely change the format. That’s right, we’ve regenerated. Everything is different, and nothing is the same. Can you believe it? I can believe it. For this new era of Triple Play we’re starting off strong, with Mad Max, Mad Max: Road Warrior and Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome.


Show-notes:
6:00: Check out all our other podcasts: Inevitable, Trust Your Doctor, and Zenith.
7:19: Tina Turner’s We Don’t Need Another Hero from Beyond Thunderdome.
11:36: Here is the link to that massive dissertation on the birth and rise of Australian Cinema.
16:43: I don’t live with this guy anymore. The passage of time between recording and release is weird.
20:05: Raising Kane has been the subject of controversy for years but it’s commonly accepted to be debunked.
23:49: If this episode was going to have a title it would be “Group of Amateurs Gets Together, Produces Garbage”.
25:25: Mel Gibson is an absolute lunatic.
27:45: Just go watch Allen v. Farrow and get the whole story and decide for yourself.
45:35: Here’s some information on Dog, dog.
46:12: I looked for 10 seconds and couldn’t find anything on the stunt show so “not well documented” seems to be accurate.
53:58: Read more about the legacy and influence of Mad Max in popular culture.
1:00:00: You can find out more about this wild stunt and others over here in this article and video.
1:03:00: Here’s where I got that quote from, for those who wanna read even more insanity. And read about the bar brawl they got into over here at BBC America.
1:05:28: Here’s Screenrant’s really questionable Mad Max article.
1:06:45: You thought I was lying when I said this behind-the-scenes documentary was fourty minutes long.

Sources and other stuff:
Indiewire Article about Beyond Thunderdome
George Miller Interview


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343: Like Getting Slapped With a Wet Sock (The Airzone Solution)

Ah, my favourite sensation.

So in the future, when we’re all wearing masks in order to stay alive, do you think we’ll look back on this movie as a warning? Probably not in al honestly, I think most people probably don’t even remember that it exists. I didn’t. And I wish to never again. See you all soon! It’s The Airzone Solution and released at some point in 1993.


Show-notes:
0:56: Here, for your very own viewing and enjoyment, the Warped Factor review that I read from.
5:44: Did you know that the ineffable Dough Liman directed Chaos Walking to the point of it being unreleasable?
11:58: Yep this takes place in 2091. Amazing.
14:47: Might as well just link to the wikipedia page for Bill and Ben Video.
25:27: Go and watch Soylent Green instead of The Airzone Solution, it’s way more interesting.
25:56: Watching The Airzone Solution feels like being held at gunpoint buy you’re bored.
31:51: How to stage faint, for all you budding actors out there.
51:30: “In chemistry, a solution is a special type of homogeneous mixture composed of two or more substances.” – Wikipedia User, 2???. The two components of a solution are a solute and solvent.
51:59: I went on AO3 and looked for “Airzone Solution”  and actually found one f*cking fan fiction about The Airzone Solution. And it was published in 2020! Creepily enough, Arnie gets slapped by Ellie in this… with a wet sock. *Twilight Zone theme plays*
1:13:06: Which Peter? Blue Peter.
1:18:44: Really, actually starting in 15 minutes from when you heard us say this.
1:20:50: Check out Inevitable: A Classic Sci-Fi Podcast, our classic sci-fi podcast. It’ll be running (at some point) while Trust Your Doctor’s on hiatus.
1:21:04: The 2038 problem needs some levity added to it. Please, people. Start joking about this just to take the edge off how much it’ll suck when we get there.
1:25:52: I’m not saying you can watch The Airzone Solution for yourself on Tubi, but I’m not not saying that either.
1:27:20: Blow up canon or whatever, thank god we don’t have to paste this article anymore. Pretty sure I have it memorized now.
1:31:23: This is a reference to Battlefield.


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Redux 14: Classic Who Ends with Furries ft Steven (Survival)

I can’t believe this, furries are canon.

Ah the end of two eras, almost if it weren’t for the last minute decision we made that makes this not the final episode before the hiatus. Instead we return with a shitty TV movie in a week. No not that TV movie. Not the one you’re thinking of. It’s a different one. One that’s actually shitty. Anyway before then, it’s Survival, written by Rona Munro and aired from November 22 to December 6, 1989.


Show-notes:
2:33 Here’s that episode on where Steven last appeared, From Out of the Rain.
5:44: Remember that time that canon said we should blow up Christopher Eccleston?
12:42: We turn here to the Tardis Wiki for information on Love and War.
15:10: Yes, The Curator really is in the next UNIT boxset.
21:15: This Ace Time Lord Arc would eventually be borne out in the audio Thin Ice, which was an adaptation of a script from the unmade Season 27.
23:55: The full title of the novel is “The Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy, Gentleman”.
24:43: I am reading off the page for racism on the Tardis Wiki.
26:00: I highly recommend people check out The Art of Self-Defense, if only because it’s just hilarious.
29:12: The Goosebumps intro.
32:20: Wayne’s World Dot Gif
33:18: Here’s the link to the [redacted] wikipedia page where you can verify my facts.
33:59: And here’s Flings for all of our non-South African audience members.
35:37: I’m not gonna link any of this food because it’s all disgusting.
49:00: This is a subtle reference to the latest (as of right now) episode of Steven’s podcast Delayed Replay, which Dylan and I were on. We discussed The Matrix 4, a.k.a. M4TRIX, which is definitely out right now in May 2021 and not coming later.
48:55: Planet of the Apes is a semi autobiographical story about…
50:37: A Hath, a Hath, my kingdom for a Hath.
1:12:43: What the f*ck did you just say f*cking say about me?
1:17:51: Jordan Peele dot gif. Also check out Inevitable: A Classic Sci-Fi Podcast, our classic sci-fi podcast.
1:20:08: McCallum was a British crime drama TV show that has no sci-fi elements.
1:27:29: Yes we still have a blog, and if you never looked at it you personally are the reason that we haven’t updated it recently.
1:29:30: Find Steven and his stuff at:
His site
Amazon (his novel)
Delayed Replay podcast
Star Trek Culture podcast
Intergalactic Peace Coalition Podcast
Doc Holocron’s Youtube channel
University of Sussex Doctor Who Society
Kiyan and Dylan were recently on his Delayed Replay episode. We discussed The Matrix 4, a.k.a. M4TRIX
1:31:52: The podcast is called Yesshit, and you should go and check it out when it releases.


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Redux 13: Radically Unfair Trial (Timelash)

We’re beyond just regular unfair trials now.

Honestly in hindsight revisiting this was a mistake. This was a completely nonsense episode to revisit. And it wasn’t even good! Like it was just bad! And yet for some reason we say down like “yeah you know what episode I wanna revisit, Timelash.” Somebody get the TARDIS and slap past us. It’s Timelash, written by Glen McCoy and aired from March 2nd through 6th, 1985.


Show-notes:
0:15: I left it in.
0:45: Find out if we liked Timelash the first time by listening to our original episode.
2:55: We revisited Mindwarp before we started Torchwood.
5:00: The Airzone Solution. Stay tuned in the episode for where I (Dylan) somehow get convinced into watching this in two weeks time.
5:40: Here are some links to JB’s podcasts, namely Who 37 and Bat 77.
10:17: I (Kiyan) (re)read The Time Machine by H.G. Wells in the time since we recorded this episode and (re)found out that the morlocks are a reference to the something in the book.
15:28: We covered Dance of the Dead on our other podcast, Inevitable: A Classic Sci-Fi Podcast.
22:14: Check out Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast, our Blake’s 7 podcast.
32:31: Here’s our episode on Blake’s 7’s City at the Edge of the World. This was all the way back in 2018. Man. Time flies.
33:15: The TARDIS wiki summary really does call Tekker “sycophantic”.
53:24: Here are the blog posts as promised: Sexism in the Time Machine and Bibliophilia: HG Wells Doesn’t Play Nice. Feel free to make your own determination.
57:28: The Bandrils really did say “screw this” and just invaded everyone.
1:08:01: Can’t believe we’ve mentioned and linked this article reporting that Christopher Eccleston said Doctor Who needs to explode the canon for 5,000 weeks in a row now.


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Redux 12: PJ Hammond Would’ve Liked This Story (Enlightenment)

PJ Hammond is underrated.

Kind of like how certain Doctor Who stories are underrated. Like The Sensorites. Or Carnival of Monsters. Both stories. Both typically rated under stories that they, for whatever reason, outshine. Actually, I just made that up. I have no idea whether The Sensorites and Carnival of Monsters are generally beloved or not. Anyway, it’s Enlightenment, written by Barbara Clegg and aired from March 1st through 9th, 1983


Show-notes:
9:25: Matt Smith was the youngest actor to play the Doctor at the time of his debut.
11:55: I actually found a picture of the chess match in the story, and as it turns out Turlough is playing White and Tegan is playing Black.
18:50: Thankfully Wikipedia has a page explaining what “edutainment” is, and it sounds as corporate as the term itself.
19:33: Bill and Melinda Gates’ divorce is probably going to stay in the news cycle for a while as there are literally billions of dollars and an entire charitable foundation that all need to be sorted out.
20:02: The winner takes it all.
21:48: Poodlegate and that’s all I’ll say on it.
23:43: I couldn’t find any evidence that “doctor” meant “cook” on old ships.
29:51: As promised, our original episode on this was 131: Iron Chef Space.
39:47: I found a whole random little internet forum discussion about the pronunciation of wrath in different countries so that’s neat.
58:08: Time stands still. Thanks, Cambridge Dictionary.
57:54: We talked about Sapphire and Steel at length on our other podcast, Inevitable: A Classic Sci-Fi Podcast.
1:20:: Worry not dear listener, I have a link to the Ballad of the Last Chance Saloon right here.
1:27:27: Yeah we still have this blog thing. Hasn’t been updated in months but oh well.


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