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351: Super Mario Hops (Legend of the Sea Devils)

Did you know that Sea Devils actually have major hops?

This week we return to the podcast that kicked off everything. It’s the moment that started everything, Trust Your Doctor, coming back for its triumphant return. Unfortunately, its to cover an episode that is… less than triumphant if we do say so. It’s Legend of the Sea Devils, written by Ella Road and Chris Chibnall and aired on April 17, 2022


Show-notes:
5:00: Lady Christina has her own spinoff and the cover looks pretty damn boring if I do say so myself.
8:03: Pretty sure I was thinking of 127 Hours here.
12:30: We’re both reading the Sea Devils page on the TARDIS wiki.
14:14: The f*ck?
30:26: It’s 2022. Are you still on a boat?
33:30: Here’s a video of the Doctor and Master’s sword fight from the original Sea Devils story. The video description calls it “one of the greatest moments in Doctor Who history.” I’m inclined to agree.
34:22: Clangers is indeed still around.
35:55: How can you not love how adorable the Skymoos are?
46:29: It was Mario 64 level called Dire Dire Docks.
52:50: Check out our classic sci-fi podcast, Inevitable: A Classic Sci-Fi Podcast.
1:092:30: Somehow I found the tweet.
1:09:00: Here’s the Blogtor Who profile on Marlowe Chan-Reeves.
1:09:50: Here’s a link to “Not that gripping, not that bad.”
1:11:06: PEAK CHIBNALL


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UFO 12 – The Psychobombs

Topic of the week: hiatuses.

I’m kind of confused about this episode actually. The explanation for the super strength is the fact that people’s nervous systems were super charged, but does that also mean they got stuffed with thirty kilos of C4? Because some of those explosions were absolutely bananas. No way there wasn’t some accelerant involved. It’s The Psychobombs, written by Tony Barwick and aired on December 30, 1970.


Show-notes:
8:10: I forgot that weeb is short for weeaboo. University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill has a solid page on the difference between descriptive grammar and prescriptive grammar.
12:28: I dunno, here’s a Daily Mail article about it, once again pissing off all our UK listeners.
13:07: Check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who podcast.
13:14: I mean, just look at Lee Van Cleef and tell me he isn’t a villain.
18:36: Supermarionation is not Super Mario Nation.
19:30: We actually covered Sapphire and Steel on this very podcast, which you can listen to here. And if you want to relive the memories like I do, here’s the intro to the show. Maybe one of the best TV intro of all time.
1:09:21: London Has Fallen shows up on this podcast all the time, for some reason.
1:18:15: I had to do some digging but I found the interview with Jodie Whittaker I read.


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UFO 11 – Close Up

This week on Space Inevitable: A Space Sci-Fi Space Podcast.

I’m ready for my close up, are you?  Cuz this week the aliens are coming in full force to take some snaps of us while we podcast. That’s right, real live aliens are currently taking pictures of us right now. You could be their next feature, their next cover model! So you better make sure you’re looking your best while you listen. It’s Close Up, written by Tony Barwick and aired on December 16, 1970.


Show-notes:
9:22: We do actually know. Here’s wikipedia’s page on Barry Gray. Other Barry Gray soundtracks include Dr. Who and the Daleks and Daleks – Invasion Earth 2150 AD.
14:28: Libra is a book that Kiyan has read. Lee Harvey Oswald was the name of the guy who killed Kennedy by the way. I couldn’t remember his name.
24:09: Here’s a clip from Space Odyssey where some classical music plays over some space shots, just for you.
33:15: Here’s the article I’m reading off of about wearing  wigs in parliament, as our British fans scream to see me unironically link to The Mirror.
52:39: You know what, why not, I’ll link to this picture for you.
53:56: We (Kiyan) were (was) wrong, it’s the 1953 Robin Hood that’s the Patrick Troughton one.
55:13: For more about Paul Darrow, check out the entire podcast we did about him (mostly), Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast.
56:47: Good thing for you I’ve already looked up 4D Special Agents for you.
58:22: Check out the Fanderson site if you want.


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UFO 10 – The Square Triangle

Our audio tracks somehow got slightly misaligned in this episode, so the conversation is a little off. Sorry.

I never realized triangles could be squares you know?

In the future, I think we should aim to reduce the number of sides in a polygon, rather than increasing. So that would be the triangle would go to… the biangle? Which is possible, just not in flat space. If you have a positively curved space time you can have a polygon of two sides that intersect into two angles. If you continue down this line of thinking…[introduction truncated for brevity]. it’s The Square Triangle, written by Alan Patillo and aired on December 9, 1970.


Show-notes:
3:40: I proceeded to explain this in the worst way possible. But anyway, go checkout the trailer for Legend of the Sea Devils, I guess. And then check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who podcast.
4:33: I’ll save you all some time and just link you the Blue Box Podcast episode. I won’t tell you what we covered though, that’s for you to find out. (Editor’s note: It’s because you didn’t bother scrubbing through to find out, isn’t it?)
11:58: Do I need to tell you who Avi Arad, Amy Pascal and Kathleen Kennedy are?
15:11: Alien 3 had some golden dialogue, as proven by this scene.
16:00: It’s 3 in the morning and I’m not reading this shit. But yes, manslaughter exists across the pond.
24:40: Here you are, Firearms regulation in the United Kingdom. Basically they spent like a 100 years putting into placemore and more restrictions.
33:36: Luckily for us the podcast isn’t in danger of a hostile takeover. (Editor’s note: yet.)
37:10: Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast is our Blake’s 7 podcast.
52:54: Here’s Steven’s link to the Seinfeld clip.
54:19: Here’s the video where I got this info from like three years ago.


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UFO 9 – Destruction

This week we learned not to plant seeds in Straker’s head.

Sometimes I wonder if maybe the biggest threat to SHADO is Straker himself. So many of the things he does seem to be the detriment to the organization as a whole, it’s a hard theory to ignore. Should Straker be replaced? Was Paul onto something in Kill Straker? Find out this week, on Destruction, written by Dennis Spooner and aired on December 2, 1970.


Show-notes:
2:15: Yeah Timelash was written by noted unknown Glen McCoy.
20:51: The amnesia drug in Torchwood was called Retcon.
20:30: Find out more about Peri being a botanist and Mel being a programmer over on Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who podcast.
21:25: More information on Billington continuously testing for Bond.
28:21: I couldn’t find out why UFO was aired in whatever order each station wanted to air it in, but the Gerry Anderson wiki notes that certain episodes premiered simultaneously thanks to all the stations that aired the show just doing whatever they want.
30:26: Go read about when the non-dominant hand is better for yourself.
46:30: Ice Station Zebra is a movie that stars Patrick McGoohan, and which is actually kind of boring. (Editor’s note: It gets better in the last 10 minutes, kind of like this episode.)
49:33: Don’t worry Kiyan, here’s some information for you on UFOs.
50:20: It was called alienstock, believe it or not. If only Naruto run guy were there.
52:20: Google’s pronunciation says it’s pronounced fav-ih-con, but Lexico says it’s fave-a-con.
56:57: For context, check out our Blake’s 7 podcast, Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast.
1:01:40: I knew it was a partnership, but K9 was actually created by Bob Baker and Dave Martin, not Pip and Jane Baker.


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UFO 8 – Sub-Smash

Something something title of this episode something something Freeman Apologist.

Look if I had a sub as a kid, I would smash it too. Actually, I have this Lego set of the Beatles Yellow Submarine, and when I got it and I used to have this obsession with taking it apart and rebuilding it. I got to the point where I could basically rebuild it from memory, it was pretty cool actually. I guess that’s kind of a sub-smash. It’s Sub-Smash, written by Alan Fennell and aired on November 11, 1970.


Show-notes:
1:15: Well, you can see framecaplib for yourself. Thanks to the magic of show-notes.
18:00: Tell me this guy doesn’t look at least a little like Willem Dafoe.
50:11: Feast your eyes.
1:04:25 Hree’s the original Thundercats intro. It was actually done by Topcraft (precursor to Pacific Animation Corporation/Walt Disney Animation Japan), an animation studio formed by former Toei employees.


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UFO 7 – Kill Straker!

Something something, we didn’t even make an Eldrad Must Die reference somehow.

Honestly, with a name like Straker, it’s not too hard to comprehend why people would want to kill him. I mean, it’s such a pretentious name. Just listen to it as it rolls off the tongue. Straker. It’s harsh. Arrogant. Bombastic. Not saying we should kill Straker, just saying i empathize with Foster. It’s Kill Straker!, written by Donald James and aired on November 4, 1970.


Show-notes:
2:57: We have an episode on The Prisoner’s Living in Harmony, if you’re so inclined to listen to more Inevitable. Also: The Girl Who was Death.
5:1: Redshirts is a good book, I would recommend you pick it up.
17:00: This is like the third time I’ve linked this Shado Library timeline.
20:27: Here’s that quora link for everyone following along at home. And yes, we have googled whether you can reattach someone’s ear for our podcasts. Don’t ask.
24:45: For more about Doctor Who, check out Doctor Who. Alternatively, check out our Doctor Who podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast.
50:50: Conveniently for you, dear audience, we have an episode of Trust Your Doctor on Curse of Fenric. Apparently I can’t even remember the name of the serial correctly, oops.
52:38: Here’s the Dumb and Dumber scene I was talking about. Not as overblown as I remembered it. Also, it was Jeff Daniels’ character, not Jim Carey’s.
55:17: Check out Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast, our Blake’s 7 podcast.
56:23: Anorak Zone ranks this episode as the 17th best of UFO.
1:02:15: Are we filthy corpos too? (Editor’s note: I am. Dylan’s not.)
1:06:20: Wikipedia calls Afrikaans a “daughter language” of Dutch. Apparently I also had the direction of the mutual intelligibility backwards. See the link for more information.


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UFO 6 – E.S.P.

I used to have ESP, then I took an arrow to the brain.

Can’t believe I just unironically referenced Skyrim in the episode description. When was the last time that was even relevant? Would you consider magical mind reading as ESP? That feels like a whole new can of worms that I’ll leave closed for now. You’re welcome. It’s ESP, written by Alan Fennel and aired on October 21, 1970.


Show-notes:

4:02: For a more incompetently cobbled together podcast overall, check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who podcast.
5:55: If you’re a fan of Blake’s 7, I highly recommend checking out Making Blake’s 7 on twitter. He documents tons of behind-the-scenes stuff that no one’s ever seen before.
14:34: His name is actually Michael Billington, and he really was in contention for the role of Bond.
33:39: Well, here’s information about the Unabomber for this unaware, I guess.
35:56: He Who Remains really broke the fourth wall.
56:40: Definitely not.
57:13: Good news, the TARDIS wiki has a page on Shockeye.
1:00:57: John Dies at the End is a thing, I guess.
1:03:06: Check out CRT Pixels on twitter for examples of this.
1:04:00: Children of the Stones really was 2 years ago, damn. (Editor’s note: can’t believe 2020 was 15 years ago.)
1:05:57: The series, I guess if you’re really curious, is called Bug Out. And here’s the commercial. Kiyan probably shouldn’t watch this. (Editor’s note: this was actually funny.)


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UFO 5 – A Question of Priorities ft. Steven Shinder

I have plenty of questions about this episode, to be honest.

Look, if I’m being straight with you, I always go into every episode of UFO with a bunch of questions. Dozens of them. Hundreds even. And every time the episode answers every single one of them. Can you believe that? Really just proves how good of a show this is. It’s A Question of Priorities, written by Tony Barwick and aired on October 14, 1970.


Show-notes:
0:55: Kiyan and I decidedly did not find Love and Monsters funny, as you can hear in our Trust Your Doctor episode on it.
9:22: Here’s a random excerpt from the 2018 Doctor Who marathon on Twitch. It’s from Barbara and Ian’s departure.
18:16: Good news for our audio listeners (everyone) we have a picture of Straker’s car steering wheel. (Editor’s note: Damn that falls pretty high on the hilarity scale.)
21:42: Anorak Zone is definitely the MVP of Inevitable. Here’s their UFO ranking.
23:37: The Last of Sheila is a whodunnit, which are always fun you know.
26:06: Thanks for plugging Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who podcast, this week, Steven.
26:31: This is what a macaque is.
27:27: Damn, I forgot about this episode of Extreme Cheapskates where this lady cooks a lasagna via dishwasher. I didn’t rewatch the full clip for the purposes of this note, but you can if you want to. Knock yourself out.
29:26: Have some information on the history of Penicillin. Also, bacteria were actually discovered in 1676.
33:03: Early Inevitable episodes are availableat your local podcasting platform.
36:39: Star Maidens is a British-German show. Both its (Star Maidens’) wikipedia page and the random anecdotes I’ve heard about it call it a battle of the sexes type thing in space.
38:45: Don’t tell Steven but I’ve only ever watched the movie version of Red Dragon.
40:00: For all 0 people reading this who care about Yugioh (or even know what it it), check out Twitch reacting to the reveal of Dark Magician Girl.
52:3: Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
1:01:00: The Gerry Anderson website’s article on the missing ending to this episode seems somewhat legit.
1:07:50: The Outer Limits (1963) somehow wasn’t deleted off everyone’s tapes back in the day. (Editor’s note: I have no idea what this means.)
1:18:35 We’ve watched that.
1:19:44: This limerick only appears on Leigh Mercer’s wikipedia page, as basically the only important thing he ever did.

Find Steven at these places:
Hi website, stevenshinder.com.
Steven’s twitter.
Steven’s Facebook
His book, Standalones and Stepping Stones: Lemons Loom Like Rain
Delayed Replay podcast
Yesshift podcast


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UFO 4 – Conflict

This week on Inevitable: mild conflict over whether this episode is good or not.

Was Conflict good? Was it bad? Don’t worry, it’s all up to you. We  just sit here and talk about the episode for an hour and that’s about all we’re good at, if you think about it. We can really lay on those plot summaries like nobody else. Enough talk, it’s Conflict, written by Ruric Powell and aired on October 7, 1970.


Show-notes:
1:00: I was probably actually thinking of how often Loki says he has “glorious purpose”.
5:47: Realizing I need to link the TARDIS wiki page on Yates since a bunch of our fans are probably not Doctor Who fans. (Editor’s note: here’s the page on Benton for good measure. And the page on Yeats. Why not? For more on anything related to Doctor Who, check out the definitive source on the show sanctioned by the BBC itself: our Doctor Who podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast.)
29:23: I bet Kiyan will link this episode of Evangelion. (Editor’s note: No, but it was episode 11.)
30:19: Yeah, it’s Peter Carlin, not George Carlin.
44:42: Looks like Destination Moonbase Alpha was compiled from episodes of Space: 1999 if I’m reading this correctly.
46:40: “Don’t worry, I decided not to do it so Kiyan could have the satisfaction of doing it for himself.” -Dylan, 2022. Be sure to check out Delayed Replay, a podcast by friend of the show Steven Shinder.
48:20: If for some reason you want to listen to us talk about Blake’s 7 more than we do here, check out the entire podcast we did on it, Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast.
49:53: Based on the Webster definition of “fray” it is definitely not the word I wanted to use here.


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