Inevitable

We’re not doing this for you.

We’re not doing it for us.

We know not at what depths the currents that compelled us to discuss and “review” classic sci-fi tv and movies in a laid-back, slightly analytical, somewhat-humorous fashion run.

So what do we know?

It was all inevitable.

Lexx 1 – I Worship His Shadow

It’s I Worship His Shadow, written by Pual Donovon, Jeffery Hirschfield and Lex Gigeroff and released on April 18, 1997.


Show-notes:

1:51: Check out our other podcasts, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast and Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast.
1:56: The Lexx Wiki is superb, for example here’s the page on I Worship His Shadow.
6:27: Believe it or not I actually found an example of exactly what we were talking about at this moment.
8:43: @BobRushy on twitter is who I was talking about here.
9:35: Here’s a webpage that collates all of the behind the scenes videos.
11:59: Gareth Roberts wrote a variety of Doctor Who material, but the most famous is probably The Unicorn and the Wasp and The Lodger.
15:08: What would you do if you collected all the dragon balls?
17:35: There’s apparently a capsule hotel really close to where I live. In case you don’t know what those are here’s Wikipedia to the rescue to tell you what a capsule hotel is as always.
20:57: Wow, Kiyan was right, it really does look like a low budget version of the Final Fantasy 10 intro.
21:30: Just watch the trailer for Birdemic, that’s all you need to.
22:01: This is what the monsters in A Quiet Place looked like. (Lol at the filename for this being “Dontmakeasound.webp”)
25:22: The episode of Blake’s 7 is aptly titled Dawn of the Gods, and you can listen to what we thought of Dawn of the Gods on our episode covering it.
35:18: Here’s Black Manta for all you Lexx fans who want to check if I’m speaking the tru tru.
37:25: John McAfee is an absolute lunatic and I highly recommend you stay away from him if you ever meet him. I’m pretty sure this is the long article Kiyan is referring to. (It was actually this John McAfee article from wired.)
38:39: Wikipedia has a surprisingly detailed page on the theory of quantum immortality and quantum suicide.
42:15: The thorax is the powerhouse of the insect.
54:31: Speaking of people liking this earnestly, here’s Den of Geek trying to decipher why Lexx is such a cult classic now.
56:55: The Lexx Timeline is impossible to navigate.
57:49: I’m going to just leave this link to Lexxplorations here for you.
1:01:00: Sybil is from 1974 and is a television film, so it’s likely this is the same Sybil.
1:02:19: ß


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The Prisoner (2009) 6 – Checkmate

Checkwait a minute, I almost made the same joke as the last time we did a Checkmate.

We’ve come to the end of another show and rather unceremoniously bid it farewell for another. Sorry The Prisoner 2009, we hardly knew ye. How could we? You only had 6 episodes, that was like a month and a half of podcasting at best! It’s a good thing we didn’t make a Prisoner only podcast otherwise we would have really been done now. It’s Checkmate, written by Bill Gallagher and released on November 17, 2009.


Show-notes:
1:31: Way back here in episode 1 of this season.
6:30: I don’t remember this dream at all, in fact this is the first I’m hearing of it.
17:53: To “lie in state” is to have your body displayed in a state building so that all citizens may come and see it before you get buried.
18:09: This scene from Spider-Man 3 might be one of the greatest in the history of cinema.
26:50: I Know There’s an Answer is a Beach Boys song, not to be confused with the similarly titled I Know It’s Today from Shrek: The Musical.
28:30: Here’s the opening to The Prisoner in case you wanted to get it stuck in your head agian.
31:07: And, just for you dear listener, here’s Ubik again for you just in case you forgot.
32:22: For even more fun, check out the page on Ubik on pkd.fandom.com
36:33: The best picture of the green dome is right here, on Pinterest of all places.
44:30: We’re still doing the whole blog thing on our blog. We just don’t post every week anymore. (That only lasted like 3 months lol.)
45:25: Keith was on our episode covering “A. B. and C.” in the original Prisoner.
49:00: We talk a lot about what we would do if we were in charge of Doctor Who on our Doctor Who podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast.
51:48: Trump’s approval rating never exceeded 49% in the four years he was in office.

Some other blogs that talk about The Prisoner (2009) – Checkmate:
Den of Geek
Pop Apostle
The TV Obsessed


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The Prisoner (2009) 5 – Schizoid

Schizoid is such a funny word.

Schizoid is a really fun word too actually. You know it would be fun if I had a schizoid, they could edit the podcast and do all the podcast stuff and I could just sleep instead. Not like I’m forgoing sleep to get these podcasts done, no siree, I’m completely healthy. I promise, I’m getting a full 8 hours every night. It’s Schizoid, written by Bill Gallagher and released on November 17, 2009.


Show-notes:
0:40: None of these bits made it into the final episode because I recorded them before starting the episode.
11:36: The study I am referring to was published in Nature Neuroscience, March 2015: “Retrieval induced adaptive forgetting of competing memories via cortical pattern suppresion”. If you do not have access to Nature Neuroscience, this Bang! Article sums up the core result, i.e. that trying to remember things makes it easier to forget them.
13:00: Here’s our episode on the original Prisoner’s Schizoid Man if you want to listen to that for some reason.
35:37: As far as I’m concerned Stanford is a trustworthy source and they tell me that you can’t dream up a new face. You just generally reuse ones you’ve seen elsewhere before.
41:20: Philip K. Dick basically only ever wrote weird things about how reality is a lie and the only truth in the world is the truth you can’t understand, or something like that. I dunno man I’m a physicist not an englishicist.
41:26: Ubik is a book whose actual physical existence distorts space-time. This is not a joke, please, the copy on my shelf is annihilating my entire bedroom, send physicists.
44:24: We talked about Patrick McGoohan’s misogyny at length during our original run of The Prisoner, which you can find in the Inevitable category on our site.
52:10: Some of the blogs I’m referencing are linked down below.
53:47: You can listen to our coverage of Children of the Stones on Season 2 of Inevitable and you can listen to our coverage of Star Cops on Season 1 of Inevitable.
54:48: Lexx is apparently really weird.
1:00:36: Our coverage and one and a half hour long head scratch over Fall Out.

Some other blogs that talk about The Prisoner (2009) – Schizoid:
Den of Geek
Pop Apostle
The TV Obsessed


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The Prisoner (2009) 4 – Darling

Oh my darling, oh my darling, oh my darling…

… Number 6. Number 6 was lost forever, oh my darling number 6. That’s how it goes right? That’s the version I remember being taught in school by 334, he was the best teacher we ever had. Some say that 571 was better, but I disagree, 334 is always going to be my favourite. It’s Darling, written by Bill Gallagher and released on November 16, 2009.


Show-notes:
3:11: You can join us at the beginning of our Children of the Stones journey here if you haven’t listened to it.
8:25: I was unable to find a picture of the prisoner DVD menu, but this is the key art Kiyan referred to for the first disk menu, and this is the shrouded in darkness image I referred to for disk 2.
23:05: Ebay has forums and the forums are rife with discussions on spending too much money on weird things on Ebay.
29:47: Warning: Both of the following links are potentially graphic. But pigs do in fact know that they’re being led to slaughter, however they’re not the only animal, as cows seem to understand as well.
35:46: Jiggery-Pokery
36:20: Scientific-American has an interesting article advancing the theory that humans have evolved a chemical and biological process that detects and prevents sex with close kin. For those who are averse to Scientific America, the name of the mechanism is the Westermarck Effect.
45:41: I had the date utterly wrong, the infamous “family eats oranges with peel and all” Reddit Post was made on February 5, 2021.
54:01: The episode I was talking about here was Many Happy Returns, which we covered with Sgt. Draino.
1:04:41: Here’s a picture of a trashcan with a step. You’re welcome.

Some other blogs that talk about The Prisoner (2009) – Darling:
Den of Geek
Pop Apostle
Dan Owen


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The Prisoner (2009) 3 – Anvil

Anvils are great but without hammers what would you even use them for?

You ever realize how close “Anvil” is to “Arrival”? I only noticed now because I almost misspelled Anvil like three times while writing this description. In fact this sentence was the fourth, can you believe it? I can’t. But at least I know how to spell now. It’s Anvil, written by Bill Gallagher and released on November 16, 2009.


Show-notes:
3:11: The iconic shot of Number 2 looking at the phone in question.
4:35: Interestingly if you google “Harry and Rupert Gregson-Williams” the first result is Rupert Gregson-Williams. At least it was for me anyway. Thanks Google.
6:38: This is the best version of the Prisoner 2009 opening sequence, so you can hear the title theme for yourself.
16:00: Have this article debating whether school uniforms are good or bad just because I thought it would be funny to put in this show-note.
16:35: I looked up the Chimes of Big Ben transcript here. I guess the line is “What has been created is an international community, a blueprint for world order.”
19:35: Honestly don’t know what happened here, can’t tell if Kiyan actually doubled his voice or if the recording skipped. Could be both.
20:45: Young man, there’s no need to feel down. Even though I know the world is falling apart you can pick yourself off the ground. Wait hang on that’s not right.
23:47: In My Mind… In MY MIND… you’re smart.
25:20: As promised, here’s the link to that behind the scenes video. Never say your old pal Dylan didn’t do anything for you.
40:59: Here are the lyrics to Heroes and Villains for you to analyze along with at home! Here’s the livejournal post on the whole Beach Boys connection again.
43:15: Nick Kent writes about Brian Wilson’s attempts to replicate auditory hallucinations in his book: The Dark Stuff: Selected Writings on Rock Music.
44:07: Pop Apostle has a picture of Pet Sounds on Michael’s table in his New York apartment.
47:51: According to Wikipedia, the length of Heroes and Villains is 4:53 on Brian Wilson Presents Smile and 3:37 on Smiley Smile. I was unable to verify which version was used in this episode.
59:48: Snopes pretty vehemently denies that Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds is about LSD and they ahve some powerful sources so I guess I’m inclined to believe them.
1:04:20: I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered.

Some other blogs that talk about The Prisoner (2009) – Anvil:
Cathode Ray Tube
The TV Obsessed
Under the Radar


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The Prisoner (2009) 2 – Harmony

I often seek inner peace, or to put it another way, harmony.

These one word titles are giving me wild “Alfred Hitchcock” vibes. If you didn’t know, he was quite fond of naming his movies after one word titles. For example, Psycho or Vertigo is probably his most famous,  but there’s also Deception, Suspicion, Notorious, Rebecca, Marnie, Rope, Sabotage, Saboteur (different movies, I know), Spellbound, Topaz and probably more I’m forgetting. Topaz is the most fun name but the most boring movie. Top tips with Dylan. Anyway, it’s Harmony, written by Bill Gallagher and released on November 15, 2009.


Show-notes:
1:39: I actually couldn’t find the exact airdates for the ITV broadcast, but apparently it was in spring of 2010. This broadcast restored the 6-episode format whereas the original AMC broadcast actually affixed two episodes together into one big thing with one intro and outro over three days.
2:12: Here’s the livejournal post we talk about extensively throughout this episode. Jonathan Blum wrote The Prisoner novel The Prisoner’s Dilemma.
11:03: What is dreampunk? I dunno, but maybe this site can shine some light on the matter.
11:53: Check out Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast for more on the origin of steampunk.
14:45: Palantir (not to be confused with Palantir) is an all seeing orb that was used for evil literally every time we see it in Lord of the Rings even though it’s “not necessarily evil itself.”
15:50: Check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who podcast, for more about Doctor Who.
18:10: If you google “triple x the movie” you’ll find exactly what we’re actually talking about. If you’re too lazy to do that you could also listen to this Triple Play episode instead.
21:23: Here’s what the poster of In My Mind (the Prisoner documentary) looks like. And hey, would you look at that – here’s our episode on it.
25:05: Nothing in his pocket but knives and lint.
27:41: Never wanted to ride on a bus more than I want to ride on the Malarkey Bus.
29:01: The image of 6 kneeling before the anchor.
41:43: We talk more about the history of Smile in the next episode. Apparently Brian Wilson did fill his dining room with sand during the making of the album.
43:05: The Jefferson Airship saga is well documented, but I think Kiyan is right. A lot more bands should change their name when they evolve and upgrade. To reduce confusion of course.
43:52: Apparently Nine Inch Nails is al/industrial rock.
58:25: The butterfly story/allegory is apparently from ancient Taoist philosophy.
59:30: Awake is obscure enough that I’m just going to drop the Awake wikipedia page here rather than anything else.

Here are some other random sites/sources consulted during this episode:
The Daily Pop – Harmony
Den of Geek – Harmony


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The Prisoner (2009) 1 – Arrival

The Prisoner Returns!

This is probably the most divisive show that we’ve done for Inevitable. Our fans have given us various opinions, from bad to great to love to dishonor on the Prisoner’s family. And yet here we are, forging forth and doing it anyway. Because 1) we want to and 2) it’s best to make your own opinions. It’s Arrival, written by Bill Gallagher and released on November 15, 2009.


Show-notes:
1:25: You can find our new blog here. We planned on updating once a week at first, but we realized we couldn’t keep that up with how busy we are lol. We have two Prisoner posts up so far. The first is an introduction to the 1980 Prisoner video game and the second is a playthrough of it.
8:00: Our previous season on The Prisoner (1967) starts with Episode 1 – Arrival as well.
8:10: You can find the Could it Have Been Worse? article on the Unmutual Prisoner Archive.
12:26: If you want to listen to us talk way too much about Doctor Who for some reason, check out our Doctor Who podcast Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast. Also the name of the the city where this series was filmed is Swakopmund.
15:00: Buy your own copy of the Prisoner miniseries.
18:02: Pop Apostle’s page on this episode.
19:15: Here’s an example page from the AMC blog index, as well as one of the production notes that I referenced.
44:10: Here is the Wikipedia page for On Exactitude in Science as well as an online copy of the story in both its original Spanish and an English translation. Also, it was Baudrillard who touched on this story.
51:26: Do Not Forsake Me Oh My Darling
1:10: Here’s our episode on A, B, and C with Keith as a guest in our first season on The Prisoner. We talk about technology that was sci-fi in the 60s but real now.
1:05:30: If you want to hear us talk about an actual PJ Hammond episode, check out our episodes on Sapphire and Steel, like this one, the first episode.
1:13:03: And if you want to listen to us talk about movie trilogies for whatever reason, check out Triple Play: A Movie Trilogy Podcast, our movie trilogy podcast.
1:25:48: If you want to listen to a great Doctor Who podcast that covers Classic Who episodes in “excruciating detail” (their words, not mine), check out Krynoid Podcast.


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The Prisoner 18 – In My Mind

I have no mind left after this show.

So we’ve finally actually finished yet another show. No more Prisoner. I swear. Absolutely none. We will do no more Prisoner ever.  The next season of Inevitable, as usual, will have absolutely nothing to do with this season. You know how it goes right? It’s In My Mind, written by Chris Rodley and released on October 30, 2017.


Show-notes
11:20: Check out Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast on which we Pronounced Stephen Greif’s Name Wrong for About One Year.
13:16: Midnight Only’s write-up on Once Upon a Time includes Alain Carrazé and Hélène Oswald’s brief portrait of the infamous press conference .
19:29: The movie shot at the Huntley Hotel was Point Blank.
27:33: “That guy” = Ian L. Rakoff
29:12: Apparently the meme was real? According to CNN anyway.
51:49: Arrival, Chimes of Big Ben, Free for All, It’s Your Funeral, Checkmate, Many Happy Returns, Schizoid, ABC, The General, Dance, Hammer, Do not Forsake, Living in Harmony, Girl Who was Death, Change of Mind, Once Upon a Time, Fall Out
1:03:45: Reverse deja vu = jamais vu
1:09:36: The audio takes a hit here cause I didn’t realize Audacity wasn’t using the mic. Sorry.
1:16:30: Check out our other podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast.
1:19:50: Check out the Tin Dog Podcast and Round the Archives.
1:28:30: We do a movie trilogy podcast called Triple Play, which we’ll be doing after this season of Inevitable is done, i.e. now.


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The Prisoner 17 – Fall Out

Help, I’ve fallen out and I can’t get up!

And so we come to the end of yet another show on Inevitable. We’re really just motoring through them now, and honestly with the quarantine and everything it works out pretty well given the lack of “going out” we’re all doing. And so with that I present to you definitely the last episode of this season absolutely. It’s Fall Out, written by Patrick McGoohan and aired on February 1, 1968.


Show-notes:


16:30: Here’s one person’s interpretation of Play-doh’s cave as it pertains to education.
47:52: Check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast
53:47: Here’s the Bonnie and Clyde scene where they get shot to smithereens.
55:21: Here’s the syringe scene. And yes, it was from Saw 2. Watch at your own risk.
1:04:08: Here’s a definition of heterotopia that touches on stuff The Prisoner talks about.
1:05:55: No pun intended.
1:10:21: It is Paul.
1:12:43: Mise en abyme
1:14:06: And if you want to hear us talk about the Matrix and other movie trilogies, check out our movie trilogy podcast Triple Play: A Movie Trilogy Podcast.

Sources and other junk:
Pop Apostle
Midnight Only
The View From the Junkyard
The Unmutual Prisoner Article Archive
Anorak Zone
Balladeer’s Blog


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The Prisoner 16 – Once Upon a Time

Once Upon a Time in the Village…

… there lived a young boy named Patrick. Now Patrick was an adventurous young lad, who got into loads of trouble. It was pretty soon he started to grow up and discover what all teenage boys do: girls. Patrick was special though because he also discovered something else around the same time: misogyny. It’s Once Upon a Time, written by Patrick McGoohan and aired on January 25, 1968.


Show-note
21:48: Leo McKern is the best around. Nothing’s gonna ever keep him down.
40:22: The old cartoon we were talking about here was “Mickey’s Trailer”
41:42: Check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who podcast, for all your Doctor Who and Torchwood needs.
47:36: Wiktionary says sitcom comes from situation comedy, which is basically exactly what we describe it as being here.
57:44: If you like movies, why not check out our movie trilogy podcast Triple Play: A Movie Trilogy Podcast? It desperately needs the listeners, and we’ve covered such masterpieces as Troll 2 and The Neverending Story 3.
1:00:05: Threw it on the ground.

Sources and other junk:
Pop Apostle
Midnight Only
The View From the Junkyard
The Unmutual Prisoner Article Archive
Anorak Zone
Balladeer’s Blog


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